.223 Wolf and TULAMMO

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DennisRL84

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I have heard a million things about WOLF, TULAMMO and other steel cased and lacquered ammo.

I shoot 7.62 WOLF and TULAMMO with NO issues out of my AK.

I have shot quite a bit of WOLF .223 from my Oly Arms AR15 and have had no issues either.

I have a RRA AR15 that I have only shot brass from but because of ammo prices am thinking about shooting steel ammo.

I have heard that after hundreds of rounds the lacquer can melt and turn into a gel type gunk that causes feeding and ejection issues of the shells. I don’t care too much about that happening at a range. ALSO I strip and fully clean my AR every time it is shot.

I have also heard that it can break the firing pin. Well a new firing pin is only about $20 and the cost savings in the ammo is well worth the risk of having to replace a firing pin earlier than normal. I have shot about 10,000 rounds through my Olympic Arms and never had any issues with it breaking or wearing down. I also have a spare firing pin among other parts on hand and am not concerned with it breaking in a "combat situation" as my shotgun would be my primary HD long gun and I would also have 6-7 other assault rifles to go to as a back-up.

Any thoughts???
 
If it's reliable in your guns and accurate enough for your purposes, I say "go for it". Sounds like you're prepared for minor repairs and keep your guns clean, so you don't have anything to worry about.
 
Wolf and Tula use a polymer coating on their cases so it feeds more reliably and does not gunk up your rifle.

I've shot steel cases in my AR and pistols and had no problems with them. I don't do this all the time though especially since I started to reload.
 
Proper AR? I guess I am unfamiliar with what you are referring to. They are a MIL-Spec Olympic Arms CAR97 and a MILSPEC Rock River Arms.
 
Steel cased ammo is made for AK's, but you would be better off reloading than shooting steel cased 223 and 308 ammo. This ammo is total garbage for the most part, inaccurate, break off rims, leaves your rifle filthy and is corrosive even if they claim it is not.
 
To be honest I do not want anything to do with reloading. I dont want that responsibility. At least if Wolf or Winchester or someone overloads and it blows off my finger I have possible recourse. When I do it the only one to blame is myself.

I dont want to go through life regretting a decision.

Silly reasoning??? Probably? Somewhat irrational? Maybe.

I also dont shoot enough to make it worth my while. AND I work full time, am an Air Force Reservist AND work on the Board of Directors for a non-profit. Free time is HARD to come by.
 
I know its dirty and corrosive. But seeing that the 'dirt" and corrosive chemicals only stay on my rifle for 1-2 hours MAX. I am not terribly concerned with it.

My guns get a full and thorough scrub, clean, polish and lube EVERY time there fired. Even if its only one round.
 
Yeah accuracy is NOT a huge issue considering my range only has 50 yd posts or 2 100 YD lanes that are ALWAYS taken by some guy with a .50cal ammo can full of ammo and is zeroing his scope. He is usually there for hours.

I have only shot on it once in about 9 years.

at 50 yds "the most accurate" ammo is not a big deal.

I just want something that goes boom to enjoy shooting.
 
Well your gonna also get 60% more cleaning time. 60% less accuracy. 60% more issues like misfires, ruptured cases, failures to cycle and extract, but hey its your rifle and your money. Have fun.
 
I tried half a box of Herter's .223 steel case ammo today. (The headstamp says it's Tulammo.) No misfires, and it was accurate enough, but it was loaded so light it wouldn't cycle the action on my Mini 14. One out of ten did eject and feed a new round. Some of the others ejected barely and didn't load a new round, and the rest hung up in the ejection port.

It would be fine for reduced loads in a bolt-action or a single-shot.
 
If you've never shot Tula or Wolf before, but a couple of boxes of each and see how your rifle does. If it seems to run fine, buy more in bulk.

I run Tula 62-grain in both my S&W and my frankenrifle without issue (both rifles have a M16 BCGs, H2 buffer, and heavy action spring). I've never had a malfunction. I shoot 200-300 rounds per range visit. Current steel-case round count is upwards of 5000 rounds between the two rifles

If you're going to use Wolf, I've heard that you want the WPA stuff.

Another note - once you've fired some steel ammo, it may be problematic to shoot brass unless you clean the chamber first.

Final note, I haven't noticed any variations in accuracy when compared to Lake City brass, so the claims regarding accuracy variations have not been validated (for me).
 
Bamashooter- I shot 1000's of rounds of it with no issues. Cleaning it is done anyway regardless of how dirty it is.

It sounds like you have just jumped on the hate bandwagon and going for a ride. Your claims are not supported with facts.
 
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Wrong. I have shot the garbage ammo or tried to several times with no luck. I actually have some in my closet that I cant give away. I am on the hate bandwagon because I hate the junky, filthy, underpowered, foreign, kaboom crap. Thats a fact.

I could care less if you shoot it or not. I dont. Why start a thread and ask for thoughts if you dont care to hear them? Just go shoot your garbage ammo and have fun.
 
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Threads like these are always full of personal opinions so ill say If it suits my purposes and it shoots alright ill shoot it especialy if it is half the price of some other ammo whose quality is not always indicated by its price. For the purposes of this ammo thread reguarding these brands in general i would like to ask is it true that this ammo is steel jacketed? I know that jackets of softer metals will not damage a gun bore but i am almost sure that steel will.
 
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