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I think you are missing the point.taylorce1 said:More states allow it than not. Some states just require it to be a centerfire cartridge, so .177 calbiers and smaller could be used. .223/5.56 with the right bullet makes a decent deer rifle.
I'm adding to my post because, hunting reasons should never be why we have AR-15 and .223/5.56 for deer hunting. It should be for what the 2A states in the BOR, "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Any argument for the firearm ownership needs to be soley based in the 2A, hunting use and its application in that is secondary and has no buisness in the discussion.
As I stated in my opening post:
I am researching a possible book in response to the Uvalde, Texas, school shooting. Can anyone tell me what states do and what states do not allow the .223 / 5.56x45 cartridge for hunting deer?
I'm not arguing what's appropriate for hunting. The gun grabbers are trying to ban AR-15s from private ownership on the basis that the .223 / 5.56x45 round is a "high-powered" military round suitable only for war. I want to use (as one of my counter-arguments) the fact that several states forbid the use of .223 / 5.56x45 for hunting deer, and the reason they do so is that it's not powerful enough to ensure clean kills.
FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS ARGUMENT I don't care if that's a correct assessment , and I don't care if the Constitution allows states to limit hunting calibers. I want to use existing state regulations to support an argument in our favor ... but to avoid being caught making up or mis-citing statistics, I need to know which states still prohibit the use of .223 centerfire for hunting deer. The 2008 list I found is now 14 years out of date, but I haven't found a comprehensive summary that's any more recent.
I was hoping the hunters among us might be able to update my list.
The states on the 2008 list are:
- Colorado
- Connecticut
- Delaware
- Illinois
- Iowa
- Kansas
- Massachusetts
- Minnesota
- New Jersey
- Ohio
- Rhode Island
- Virginia
- Washington
- Wyoming
In addition, Nebraska has (or had, in 2008) a requirement that the energy at 100 yards has to be not less than 900 ft-lbs. Depending on the load used, .223 / 5.56x45 may or may not make that. The M193 I carried in Vietnam generates 995 ft-lbs at 100 yards. I don't know if any commercial hunting rounds are wimpier than that.