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ratat, the Medalist and Nomad are out of production, Browning only makes Buckmarks now. The different HS are different in polish and gold plating on the trigger and mag release. The Tournament is the most base model. If you look for a HS look for one made in Hamden, Ct unless you can find one of the rare, hand built, 10X models.

The Walther KSP200 uses a Baikal frame and trigger group with a Walther top end. Here is a photo http://www.shotshowreports.com/images/KSP200.JPG

A pure Baikal will run half of a KSP200 or Benelli Atlanta, $350 from Jerry's Sports. As someone else suggested the SIG/Hammerli Trailside is another competitive pistol for under $500.
 
The Baikal looks pritty hard to beat!quality and price.I do like exotics.I'm still thinking of the Browning Medalist though.Does Browning stand behind them still, if you need a part or something?
Bowhunter, can you put a red dot on your piece or any scope for that matter?does that adj.grip come standard?
Thanks to everyone for all the great imput it sure is nice to have 'tfl' as a research tool!
 
S&W M41's can be touchy to get them work right. You asked if the Baikal come with the adjustable grip - yes - it does and you can mount a red dot sight on it. Many shooters replace the grips on these things. If you're considering getting one, please spend some time here http://home.dal.net/pcb/izh35m-comp.html and read up on them. I've shot Hammerli's 208's, Hamden High Standards (still have my Victor), Browning, Rugers and am currently shooting a Pardini SP modified slightly by Don Nygord http://www.nygord-precision.com/nav.html. I'm going to stick with the Pardini - I like the way it feels and shoots.
Do you have a 1911 frame? If so, and you're interested in sticking with one gun take a look at the Marvel conversions - these are really a quality product. http://www.marvelprecision.com/ and will shoot as good or better than many of the guns mentioned in this thread.
If you're new to this game, the Ruger slabside is a very good choice. Get a trigger for it (Clark, etc) and start shooting.

Whatever you end up getting pick up a wide selection of ammo and try them all. A number of the 22's mentioned in this thread like one or two types of ammo. You mentioned you were looking for a HS Victor - if you end up finding one only use SV ammo in it and look closely at the right side of the slide - they have a tendancy to crack there from HV ammo and worn springs. There is a HS forum http://disc.server.com/Indices/34752.html where you could post a request looking for one.
 
I have found a few high Standards,S&Ws and Medalists.Now that I have all this knoledge I want the best I can get(here in Mass.)I am at the mercy of what is in state.So far I am leaning towards either a H.S. or Browning.Both are dry fireable,So they say.Are parts still available? And are parts interchangeable from old to new H.S.?
 
Unless you get the target or competition model Trailside, you are stuck with crappy non-adjustable sights. Also keep in mind that these two models are hard to find. Plus, the trigger on my standard model Trailside is pretty sorry. That said, they are very accurate little guns.
 
Hello, ratatat!

High Standards definitely are not made for dry firing! I don't know anything about the Brownings, but have spent some time at Jim Spacek's High Standard site (http://users.ntplx.net/~tm/jspacek.htm) and read lots of accounts of pistols damaged by dry firing: damaged barrels and broken firing pins seem to be the commonest problems.

I dry-shoot mine with little red plastic dummy rounds, but they tend not to last very long: they crack around 50 mock-shots.

Houston High Standard parts are supposed to be interchangeable with Hamden and East Hartford High Standard parts, but according to my friendly local gunsmith, an original High Standard collector, the Houston parts sometimes fit, sometimes don't, sometimes stand up, sometimes don't.

If 'twere me, I'd spend an evening at Jim's site. There are plenty of worthy-looking High Standards on the internet; whether the People's Republic of Massachusetts will let you so-called "import" them, however, I have no idea. The People's Republic of California won't--which is one of the reasons I'm leaving the P.R.C. to return to the United States.

I'm partial to High Standards, but am unfamiliar with European and Russian match pistols. When my Trophy was brand new, the gunsmith I bought it from Ransom-rested it for me ("I want you to know what you got, son") and printed a ten-shot group about the size of a dime or slightly smaller at twenty-five yards. If it need be said, I've never even come close to that type of accuracy. I still have it these twenty-odd years later, still take it out of the bank box and take it to the range, and still haven't encountered a failure to feed, failure to fire, or failure to extract. That degree of reliability is somewhat unusual, but by no means unheard of.

The best stocks I've found are Randall Fung's: http://jnb.com/~funggrip/index.html, and I'm partial to Ultra Dot scopes: http://www.ultradotusa.com/ud_home.html. The good people at BME make good scope mounting systems if you'd rather not have your pistol drilled and tapped: http://www.bme-mounts.com.
 
High Standard Houston parts should not be put in an original HS pistol. It's a violation of the rules of nature to put that crap into a good pistol.
You can get dry fire plugs for 22's from Larry Carter - http://www.larrysguns.com/default.htm p/n 1520601-5 Hammerli Dry Firing Plugs (Pkg of 5) $6.00 - they're from Hammerli but work fine in a High Standard. Mine lasted a long time when I was using them the Victor and my 208s. You might check Larry's used guns, he's got one of those Brownings you asked about. He's a great guy - and is in your neck of the woods (Maine). I've got both an Ultra-dot (Larry Carter sells these too) and an Adco dot scope. Your mileage might vary, but I find the Adco dot much crisper and easier to use. Brownells sells an inexpensive scope mount for the Victor; all you do is pull the rib off and it screws into the same holes. I've got one sitting around here somewhere, they're pretty nice.
Someone mentioned grips; Arnie Vitarbo made the some of the best grips in the business. He's retired and has sold the business to http://nealjguns.com/pdfcatalog/CustomGr.pdf These grips are exactly the same as what Arnie made. I'll give you some advice wrt custom grips - get a gun and shoot it for awhile with whatever grips it comes with (well, the Baikal might be an exception to this rule). You'll likely run into a lot of other shooters who have grips you can try - they probably won't fit exactly right but will give you and idea of what you want. Then buy some. There is a good chance you'll have to modify them when they arrive - do any modifications very slowly.
Lastly, remember the Bullseye game isn't about equipment - it's really about shooting. Good equipment can help your confidence level, but don't let it get in the way of having fun and enjoying the sport. Most of the 22's mentioned on this thread will all shoot better than most of us can (Ransom rests don't lie) - find one you like and start shooting it.
 
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