22 LR shotshells
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off topic, but had to share.
living in idaho, and dead of winter.
had a squirel coming through the fireplace.
didn't know it, and had opened the cover to light a fire.
It had fallen a sleep.
trying to be nice, rather than throw it back out in the cold, I put it in a shoe box and pinned it in closed on a shelf.
woke up the next morning to what I thought was a break in.
squirrel had chewed through the box, and was tearing around the house trying to find a way out.
Finally got both outside doors open so it could "esacpe"
living in idaho, and dead of winter.
had a squirel coming through the fireplace.
didn't know it, and had opened the cover to light a fire.
It had fallen a sleep.
trying to be nice, rather than throw it back out in the cold, I put it in a shoe box and pinned it in closed on a shelf.
woke up the next morning to what I thought was a break in.
squirrel had chewed through the box, and was tearing around the house trying to find a way out.
Finally got both outside doors open so it could "esacpe"
Big4Freedom,
I bet those 3" shells really do rock. When we had the Judge I used the lightest loads I could find. Nice little kick nevertheless
. I found it less unpleasant than the Cor-Bon .45 LC rounds I shot out of it. I'm not a huge fan of .44 Mag either, because after a couple boxes of ammo my hand starts to complain. Try the 2 1/2" .410 loads (I used 2 1/2" # 7.5 target loads) for the snakes. The 5' rattler I shot from 8 feet or so just sort of 'deflated' when I shot him. I've never had another snake act that way. Never even twitched, and if you've shot snakes, you know how they keep moving after you shoot them. Even the snake in the picture I posted was trying to strike at me with his head not fully attached.
With a Bond I think I would try a 2 1/2" load of #12 shot (yes, they make them). I never stand back more than about 10 feet so so that cloud of #12 at 1200 fps should rip any snake to shreds and shouldn't gouge up my concrete at all.
I don't know why so many of these guys can't get the 22 LR shells to work very well. They killed mice from 12 feet or so for me. I also shot a lot of soda cans with them for giggles and got lots of little holes...go figure. I just never shot a snake with a shotshell smaller than .38 and wondered about them. Oh, not true...I've used the 9mm rounds which only carry a little more than half as much shot as the 38 and the 9's did the job too.
I bet those 3" shells really do rock. When we had the Judge I used the lightest loads I could find. Nice little kick nevertheless
. I found it less unpleasant than the Cor-Bon .45 LC rounds I shot out of it. I'm not a huge fan of .44 Mag either, because after a couple boxes of ammo my hand starts to complain. Try the 2 1/2" .410 loads (I used 2 1/2" # 7.5 target loads) for the snakes. The 5' rattler I shot from 8 feet or so just sort of 'deflated' when I shot him. I've never had another snake act that way. Never even twitched, and if you've shot snakes, you know how they keep moving after you shoot them. Even the snake in the picture I posted was trying to strike at me with his head not fully attached.With a Bond I think I would try a 2 1/2" load of #12 shot (yes, they make them). I never stand back more than about 10 feet so so that cloud of #12 at 1200 fps should rip any snake to shreds and shouldn't gouge up my concrete at all.
I don't know why so many of these guys can't get the 22 LR shells to work very well. They killed mice from 12 feet or so for me. I also shot a lot of soda cans with them for giggles and got lots of little holes...go figure. I just never shot a snake with a shotshell smaller than .38 and wondered about them. Oh, not true...I've used the 9mm rounds which only carry a little more than half as much shot as the 38 and the 9's did the job too.
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"csmsss "they will kill squirrels if you shoot them in the face close up'
You must be an exceptional stalker. About the closest I've ever gotten to a squirrel out in the woods is about thirty feet - inside my parents' house, I was quite lucky to get within ten feet of them."
You wait for them to poke their head out of the eaves on your house that the cute little bastard chewed a hole in to.
You must be an exceptional stalker. About the closest I've ever gotten to a squirrel out in the woods is about thirty feet - inside my parents' house, I was quite lucky to get within ten feet of them."
You wait for them to poke their head out of the eaves on your house that the cute little bastard chewed a hole in to.
It really depends what you are shooting them out of.
I have a Remington pump action .22 smoothbore...choked. I've killed sparrows at 15 yards or so. Rats in a barn at around 30 feet, dead on impact.
I had an incident where a neighbor let his dogs run loose, and one day they came after my 18-mo-old daughter. My own dog protected her, that's the only reason she was not chewed up in the seconds before I got there. They called me a liar and continued to let the dogs run. A month later, they were back in my yard. Not wanting to start a neighborhood war, I did not want to kill them. I got them both in the butt from about 10-15 yards with that .22 birdshot gun. I have never heard a dog howl like that, they dragged their butts halfway home.
But they were not permanently injured. And they never set paw on my property again.
I have a Remington pump action .22 smoothbore...choked. I've killed sparrows at 15 yards or so. Rats in a barn at around 30 feet, dead on impact.
I had an incident where a neighbor let his dogs run loose, and one day they came after my 18-mo-old daughter. My own dog protected her, that's the only reason she was not chewed up in the seconds before I got there. They called me a liar and continued to let the dogs run. A month later, they were back in my yard. Not wanting to start a neighborhood war, I did not want to kill them. I got them both in the butt from about 10-15 yards with that .22 birdshot gun. I have never heard a dog howl like that, they dragged their butts halfway home.
But they were not permanently injured. And they never set paw on my property again.
boostedtt91
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I personally have never used them on a small animal before, but after shooting a few of them i don't see how they would really do anything except **** them off. Maybe if you shot something very small at point blank range they might be affective.
I've killed rats about 7-8' away. They'd probably kill a squirel if you put the barrel against his head (I said maybe). If you have a coon hound I seen a lot of people use 22 rat shot to trash break dogs. It just stinks them at about 5 feet away. I even shot a snake with 38 shotshells only to **** him off. For snakes use a shotgun or a shovel.
bamaranger
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We had a major rat problem out in the shed/dog runs couple of years back and bama boy and I had nightly rat hunts. From a .22 rifle single shot you could kill a rat at 10 feet or so. We shot the crimped W-W type as the plastic nosed CCI's seemed pricey. We shot (and no doubt hit) quite a few that ran off.
We had a major rat problem out in the shed/dog runs couple of years back and bama boy and I had nightly rat hunts. From a .22 rifle single shot you could kill a rat at 10 feet or so. We shot the crimped W-W type as the plastic nosed CCI's seemed pricey. We shot (and no doubt hit) quite a few that ran off.
Tom Matiska
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I used them twice out of a 22 revolver. Once on a small snake at a few feet. Once to bolster the confidence of a youth having trouble knocking over his first soda can
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My experience with handgun shotshells in general is that they are maddeningly ineffective when you want them to be effective, and distressingly destructive when you don't expect them to be.
Have shot some over the years, but never used the .22LR version on any animals. Note that the ones with the crimped ends usually won't cycle through an autoloader. .22LR shotshells are usually loaded with #12 shot aka dust. (there is a smaller one, "fine dust), .22 mag shells are usually loaded with #11s and do work on small things at short range, usually.
Centerfire shotshells for handguns are usually loaded with #9 shot, and results can be amazing, in both directions.
A friend of mine has had some of the oddest results. He has some shotshells that cycle in his 9mm (don't know the brand). Shooting squirrels at 20ft, he said it was like a shooting gallery. Each time he shot, the squirrel would stop, and change direction. Never did land a lethal (or even visibly damaging) hit. Later shot a feral cat, at 20 yards, one shot DRT. Same gun, same ammo, same shooter, 3 times the distance on an animal several times as big. Go figure....
I can tell you from personal experience that 2.5" .410 shells from a Contender do work quite well on vermin at across the barn distance.
Have shot some over the years, but never used the .22LR version on any animals. Note that the ones with the crimped ends usually won't cycle through an autoloader. .22LR shotshells are usually loaded with #12 shot aka dust. (there is a smaller one, "fine dust), .22 mag shells are usually loaded with #11s and do work on small things at short range, usually.
Centerfire shotshells for handguns are usually loaded with #9 shot, and results can be amazing, in both directions.
A friend of mine has had some of the oddest results. He has some shotshells that cycle in his 9mm (don't know the brand). Shooting squirrels at 20ft, he said it was like a shooting gallery. Each time he shot, the squirrel would stop, and change direction. Never did land a lethal (or even visibly damaging) hit. Later shot a feral cat, at 20 yards, one shot DRT. Same gun, same ammo, same shooter, 3 times the distance on an animal several times as big. Go figure....
I can tell you from personal experience that 2.5" .410 shells from a Contender do work quite well on vermin at across the barn distance.
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