200 yds high precision back-up/trunk/pack rifle

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johnwilliamson062

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Rifle for inside 200 yards.
High precision necessary(sub MOA at least)
Short Barrel (10" or less)
As compact of a stock as possible(folders/collapsible out I'd say)

Cartridge, action, stock, magazine, action, all up for grabs.
What would you go with?
Include sling and sling stud please.
 
sub-MOA and under 200yd? Are there really mean sparrows in your yard?

(In addition to it being an SBR)
 
Rifle for inside 200 yards.
High precision necessary(sub MOA at least)
Short Barrel (10" or less)
As compact of a stock as possible(folders/collapsible out I'd say)
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That combo (super short barrel, a stock that may not be as rigid as desired, and 200 yard shots) doesn't really scream sub-MOA to me......think you may be a little optimistic.
 
No worries.

SBR AR of your choice. I have no idea what you are shooting at so that goes to caliber. It will cost you though. After taxes and gun you will be looking at $1500+.

So, if this is for your car are you planning on leaving it in the car unattended? That is not such a great idea.

Most guys just get an AK or SKS.
 
"a stock that may not be as rigid as desired" Why can't the stock be rigid? It can be of any material you desire. A super bulky bench shooter stock should be avoided at possible, but it doesn't need to be a floppy Tapco stock. On this I think the restriction will be more on getting a good fit for the shooter to allow precision shooting, not rigidity.
10" will affect velocity which will in turn increase the adjustments necessary for yardage, but as far as the actual accuracy is concerned I do not believe it will be an issue. With open sights the short sight radius might be a problem, but since youcan use an optic that eliminates that problem. 1 MOA is not effective accuracy when wielded by the shooter, but rather the gun from a sled/rest.

Yes, it would be an SBR.

Any ideas beside an AR? Capacity/rapid fire isn't necessary an important consideration. Seems there might be bolt options which would be cheaper. No African big game or Elk.
 
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I have an AR pistol that will shoot sub MOA with a solid rest and decent scope. It won't do that with the AimPoint that's mounted on it now but comes close and is much easier to shoot. The downside of this outfit is the muzzle blast, which is obnoxious to say the least.
I'd like to say it's a super handy gun to carry on the ATV but having to stop to install ear protection cuts into the handy factor deeply.
 
You can cut down a mini-14 if you want. But you said accurate to 200 yds, not 20 feet.

Since you don't seem to care about cartridge you could go from a subgun, 200 yards is about the max of most of the pistol cartridges out of a 10" barrel.
 
Rifle for inside 200 yards.
High precision necessary(sub MOA at least)
Short Barrel (10" or less)
As compact of a stock as possible(folders/collapsible out I'd say)
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John, are you going for a tax stamp and 4 month wait on this gun????

What you are asking for is a SBR that has a lot of travel restrictions on it unless you file the proper paper work on it. Min length for a standard legal rifle is 16 inches.

Jim
 
Look at Kel-Tec. I have an SU-16A with a folding stock. They have the 16D with 9 or 12 inch barrels and a folding stock. From their site:
The SU-16D is especially suited for low intensity urban combat, such as ambush response from inside a vehicle, or fighting in confined spaces. The concept of replacing the pistol with a carbine in military units is not new. The intermediate power 5.56 mm round and modern polymer materials make it possible to achieve a weapon of a size and weight only marginally larger than a Sub Machine Gun. The SU-16D9 is less than 20" folded, weighs 4.7 lbs loaded with 30 rounds and has a practical range of over 150m.
 
sub moa is less neccisary than you may think.

considering that a Minute of Angle at 200 yards is right about 2 inches, sub moa at that range is unnessisary. Quite frankly, you cound have a horribly inaccurate weapon that holds 10 MOA at 200 yards and you'd still be able to nail a human in the chest (the average shoulder width of a huban is about 24 inches!).

So if a short barrel is nessicary, I'd simply recamend anything that is a solid rifle caliber.
 
It's not a rifle, but what qualities you are asking for to me sounds like you're describing a T/C Contender (in pistol configuration) in one of the small rifle calibers (.222, .223), medium power scope, bipod, etc.
 
SBR or pistol AR. With a quality barrel and a good shooter sub moa is possible.

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