2 out of 3 in competition Why???

For me, I can't shoot a Glock. I've tried, trust me. Bought a "remanufactured" Glock 17, it went bang every time I pressed the trigger, but I had problems hitting the side of a barn, while standing inside of it. For some reason, I bought a used Glock 19. I actually did better with it, but still, not that great. Then bought a Beretta 92FS. Very shortly thereafter, the Glocks got sold and I haven't missed them a bit. With the Glock 19 I could shoot Sharpshooter in PPC. With the Beretta, I made Master in three matches. That made me a believer, that me and a Glock just don't get along. Are there people that can shoot a Glock at a Master classification? Sure. But not me. I don't hate Glocks, they're just not for me.
 
When I go to a GSSF match, 100% of competitors choose Glock. :D

When I go to a USPSA match, a little less than 10% choose Glock, 3Gun and PRS about the same.

Newer and less skilled shooters are more apt to be using a Glock in all of the action shooting sports, and that is okay. For years, they were about the only inexpensive and reliable platform that allowed folks to get in the game with simplicity. That has changed in the last 10 years, and even more in the last few. CZP09, Sig320s, M&Ps, XDs and several others are in the striker-fired and DA-SA marketplace with various ergonomic and price point differences that are suitable for the entry level divisions. I am seeing more and more of these, and less and less Glocks over the last several years. If the trend continues, in 5 years, the Glocks will likely only be a token showing.

BUT, I will bet you a dollar to a doughnut, more top level shooters have Glocks for their carry/HD guns than you might think. Lots of them have G43s, G26s with the single stack 9mm Kahrs, M&Ps and some others being less common.
 
I've always enjoyed the precision vs accuracy debates... saw this once and I think it is one of the best visualizations of the whole discussion on precision vs accuracy...

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Doc, congrats on the placing.
Everyone likes to take shots at whoever has been and is in the number one spot, so here is my Glock shot. Glocks are great tools but they are just that. Glocks are like 99% of every other firearm, out of the box they are more accurate than the person shooting it.

If you are pleased with your Glock and shoot well with it, continue to carry it and rock on.
 
I wish I could shoot a Glock well. I have a JR Carbine in 9mm that uses Glock mags and would love a pistol to match. But unfortunately I've tried many times and just don't shoot them well. On the other hand my CZ P07 seems to just shoot itself, I don't even have to try hard and it's just perfect FOR ME. My CZ75B SA is great too, I think with some trigger work it'll rival the P07 for accuracy and will probably surpass it as I shoot it more. I'll carry the P07 and the 75B SA will be for range use.
 
There are a ton of Glocks in competitive circles for sure. It's simple to see why, though. First, almost none of them are stock. Custom triggers, aftermarket frames/slides/barrels/stippling jobs, RMRs when the rules permit, etc... The guns have been around for a lot longer than most other striker fired guns. It's cheaper to get into shooting with a Glock than a custom 1911 or custom shop CZ, at least in the beginning, and then you can add more to it. The Glock is popular in competition because it's established, has a low bore, can be customized like crazy due to a huge aftermarket, etc... Doesn't mean it's the best, but there are a lot of options available and the platform is already very established. Plus as new guns come out, a lot of people that are already very used to their current Glocks won't want to get comfortable on a new platform. There are a ton of new guns out that perform just as well as the Glock, but the Glock has decades on most of them.
 
Thanks everyone for all your remarks.I had no idea that the competitions were mostly backed by the various mfgs. I can see how who's what would be skewed.

Happy Mother's Day Mom.
 
Thanks everyone for all your remarks.I had no idea that the competitions were mostly backed by the various mfgs.
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While it's true that the top shooters tend to be sponsored, that fact alone wouldn't account for Glocks being especially common in shooting competitions. Most of the time there are only three Glock sponsored shooters, typically one male and two female. If 10% of the shooters in a match are shooting Glock pistols, it's not because they're all sponsored by Glock. Not unless there are only 30 competitors total and the entire Glock shooting team is participating in the match.

For comparison, S&W has 9 professionally sponsored shooters on their team as does CZ-USA.
Glocks are plenty accurate for the action shooting games. Never saw one in a bullseye match tho.
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Out of curiosity, how many other brands of DAO style pistols do you see in bullseye matches? I've never seen anyone shoot a DAO style pistol of any brand in a bullseye match that I can recall.
 
I doubt cops are putting their life on the line with a gun they don't like or is not accurate.
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Normally cops don't get a choice in what gun they carry. Glocks are used by many departments because Glock sold them to PDs at discount prices to get them out there.

Regardless about your thoughts of Glocks, it defeats the purpose when departments demand such a heavy trigger pull so they have fewer "accidental discharges".

Its like in my cop days when we used revolvers. Many departments modified the double action revolvers to remove the single action capability.

In those days, Smith & Wesson dominated the cop sales because they sold their revolvers cheaper then anyone else.

I don't really condemn Glocks, I'm mainly just a revolver guy.
 
Go out and buy a decent DSLR camera. Figure in the $1500 to $2000 range with a couple lenses. Go out with a professional photographer and take some pictures. His or her equipment is going to cost several times what you spent. Go develop those pictures and you are going to find his or her pictures come out far better.

Now propose a challenge: you swap equipment and retake the photos. Winner keeps all the equipment.

The professional is going to have all the equipment in the end because, past a certain baseline, it is not the equipment that makes the most difference but the skill of the shooters.
 
Not arguing Glocks being popular in IDPA, but I wonder how many of the "Other" category that made up 47% are CZ-75 variants/clones or 1911's. I'll bet it's a significant number.
 
Well put!

One can buy a handgun, and not be a shootist.

One can buy a piano, and not be a musician.

One can buy a car, and not be a driver.

Skill's matter!
 
ricklin said:
One can buy a handgun, and not be a shootist.

One can buy a piano, and not be a musician.

One can buy a car, and not be a driver.

Skill's matter!
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If the top shooters are using predominantly one brand of handgun, it's to your advantage to find out why.

If the top musicians are using predominantly one brand of piano, it's to your advantage to find out why.

If the top drivers are using predominantly one brand of automobile, it's to your advantage to find out why.

Nothing wrong with following your own desires or feelings, just don't be surprised when you're not on the podium when you show up with your Hi-Point or Yugo (I don't know anything about pianos).

Skills matter and are by far the greatest discriminator, but as the skill levels between competitors becomes closer together (they are VERY close to equal at the top levels), equipment becomes more important.

I have no doubt that the top national competitors could easily win most local IDPA matches shooting any functioning pistol and carrying their magazines in their socks. But when it gets to the national/international level, there's much less of a skill level gap to allow such leeway.
 
Most of the "top" in any competitive sport are using the brands they are paid to use. Same in shooting with the notable exception of Ben Stoeger...and he does not shoot Glocks. :D

IDPA is not representative of the "top" shooters either. There are only a few top shooters who regularly shoot IDPA for the titles, but they focus on the other sports regularly.
 
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