2 out of 3 in competition Why???

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Doc Holliday 1950

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In a prievious post Glock was 1st. &3rd. Best in Competition out of 400 some odd competitors World Wide.

Question is why? Almost everyone puts Glock down when it comes to accuracy & handling as I read in this forum. My Semi is a Glock 19(3rd best) & I bought it because my brother has one & when I shot it I was sold on it.

So why? as always, all replies are welcomed.
Thanks!!
 
Probably depends on what "competition" you are talking about.

From what I hear (I don't compete myself), the most popular competition handguns tend to be CZ-75's (as well as clones/variants), 1911's, and Glocks.
 
CZ75's and 1911's are better in both intrinsic and practical accuracy.

Glocks are WAY better marketed and sponsored. It is also possible to make a competitive Glock by removing trigger pull weight and stroke. It won't be as good, but it will be good enough in the right hands.
 
Glocks are fine for their intended purpose but I think you are misreading those statistics which are themselves not really comprehensive.

Glock is probably not well represented in precision shooting sports and there's no reason they should be.
 
There are much more "accurate" handguns than a Glock. And there are much more "precise" handguns than a Glock.

If by competition you mean selected by more police departments, that's likely a true statement. Procurement policies at most government organizations say if you meet the requirements, low price (Glock) usually wins.

If by competition you mean matches like IDPA et al, I find that difficult to believe.
 
Glock is probably not well represented in precision shooting sports and there's no reason they should be.
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I'm not sure how you personally define "precision", but there are plenty of Glocks in the different competitions that do involve precision.

If by competition you mean matches like IDPA et al, I find that difficult to believe.
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We just went over this in the thread the OP mentioned. Glocks are definitely prevalent in IDPA matches.


There is what I would call a myth that there is this vast difference in accuracy and precision between pistols. While I might buy that for certain hand fitted pistols, when it comes to production pistols I feel I can say with some confidence that the majority of people in the manufacturing industry would admit that's not overly true. Certainly some pistols have lighter and shorter trigger presses that make getting to the limit of the mechanical accuracy easier, but that's more the human-pistol interaction than the mechanical accuracy itself. If we were to lock those pistols in a vise and then do the comparison I think the results would be a lot closer than many think. I've owned somewhere around 80 pistols at this point. In my experience certain pistols work better or worse for certain people. People as a result have a tendency to say the pistol is at fault. When it comes to pistol shooting the shooter is the largest factor by far.
 
My Glock 21 was very accurate right out of the box. Rested off the sand bags it shoots 10 ring at 25 yds. People that don't even own a Glock or have shot one knock them. I doubt cops are putting their life on the line with a gun they don't like or is not accurate. There is more reason that police have Glocks than just price point.
 
My Glock 21 was very accurate right out of the box.
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Mine too

People that don't even own a Glock or have shot one knock them.
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It's an unfortunate inclination of people to put down what you don't know, don't have experience with, or don't like the looks of. I'm a big fan of anything I can properly hit my targets with.

I doubt cops are putting their life on the line with a gun they don't like or is not accurate. There is more reason that police have Glocks than just price point.
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The fact is that most PD's are getting an offer they can't refuse by issuing or authorizing Glocks, lower acquisition costs, lower maintenance & armoring costs, and lower training costs. A lot of LEO's aren't even gun people, and they are fine to carry whatever their dept. either authorizes or otherwise provides, and what they get trained on.
 
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If "competition" means shooting matches, my scores increased quite dramatically when switching from a Glock back to a 1911.
The matches attended were primarily USPSA and NRA Action Pistol or similar.
That was after using the Glock exclusively for over 5 years.
Does that actually mean anything??
 
Winning shooters, at the highest levels, are shooting the gun provided to them by their sponsor, so, I never placed much importance on what the top shooters are doing for guns and gear; they'd win, regardless.

For instance, when I was shooting USPSA every weekend, virtually every shooter competing in USPSA Limited division was shooting an STI pistol, but the championships were being won with similar SVI guns; STIs were being shot by everyone who had to buy their own gun, as they cost $2000-$2500, while SVIs were very difficult to get, and cost twice as much.

Glocks are cheap, there are lots of parts and accessories, so they're popular.
 
I don't think that's the case. I put down glock a LOT, but not because of accuracy, many of them are very accurate and I am able to shoot them quite well. what I do put down are the people who blindly push them on other people, and ignore a person's reasons for disliking them, telling them "you just need to spend more time with it". furthermore I find the whole "you're limpwristing it" excuse to be a copout when a person does end up with an unreliable specimen. I hate them for their ergos, brass to the face, and larger than average kaboom rate(likely related to the huge market share they occupy), but accuracy has never been on my list of gripes.
 
Glocks are fine pistols and I do own a Gen 2 Glock 19 but I don't put any weight into who wins competitions in my personal choices. Chevy and Ford by far win the most NASCAR races but I have not owned either in decades. Larger manufacturers also have much more to budget for sponsorship.
 
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I've owned Glocks, carried Glocks, was issued a Glock, was a Glock armorer, etc. Never pushed Glocks on anyone, or, conversely, said they aren't good guns. Just never a favorite of mine personally. So many, especially younger shooters, know little of anything in handguns other than high capacity light/LASER railed polymer pistols, especially Glock. I've worked with these fellows.
As to LE carrying Glocks, JDBerg nailed it.
 
"...Best in Competition..." As mentioned, what competition?
"...doubt cops are putting their life on the line with..." Coppers don't get to choose what they're issued. However, cop issue pieces are also carried a lot more than they're ever fired. A Glock weighs less.
"...reason that police have Glocks..." Is because of Glock's aggressive marketing to PD's.
 
45 Auto posted #52 on this question.
"G19 accuracy at 25 yards - just dinner plate accurate? Or is it me?"

It is to his reply that my post is referring to about Glock being #one & #three.

Since I am, at best, a novice when it comes to firearm knowledge I ask questions like this
because everyone has their own take on what's the best Semi for accuracy or to carry for SD or for home use, etc.

Generally, most of the info found on this site is correct and when someone blows the answer, it is quickly addressed.

So, what's correct? That each competition's sponsors provide their pistols or are these competitions kosher?
Again, 45 Auto's response would seem to include a variety of pistols not just Glocks .
 
If you're a good enough shooter you likely get sponsored. At that point the cost of the pistol isn't on you. For that matter for those competition shooters, often doing 1000 rds a week, the pistol really isn't the expensive part. Were you to buy the ammo yourself you'd spend more than the cost of the pistol every 3 weeks. Ammo sponsorships make the most difference in terms of cost.

I'm going to say something that I hope doesn't come off as flippant. At the end of the day, does it matter if the pistol you use doesn't get used in competition? Are you yourself planning on getting into competition? If you are and you're relatively new I mean no offense but there's likely more improvement to be made for yourself as the shooter than you'll realize by switching pistols. SIGs, I think we can all agree, don't typically make up a large portion of competition shooters and yet they're typically regarded as reliable and quality firearms (as are many other pistol manufacturers). And despite the fact that they're not used extensively people like Max Michel can still win competitions. Why? Because Max Michel is good enough that I doubt the pistol matters.

Does your Glock shoot well for you? Is it reliable? If it is, does it really matter what someone else uses? If this is just you curious about inside baseball I can understand your curiosity to a point, but just be aware that what you're mostly going to get are a bunch of personal opinions, myself included. There are a lot of great pistols out there. Find something that works for you and let the fanboys and haters drone in the background. You'll likely be happier too.
 
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