1911's

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I have been seeing a lot of "chatter" about 1911's, I've never owned one.
I have a Springfield XD 45 that I enjoy shooting...(mostly I shoot 9 mm)
so, what is the hoopla about the 1911's
Do I need one? Dumb question, but if I do buy...what to look for...
 
I suppose there are maybe three main reasons emotional, historical and technical.


Emotionally some folks just see them and think that is what a gun should look like. Maybe Dad or Granddad had one or we just grew up wanting one.


Historically they have been around for over 100 years and are still obviously very popular. They have been used by the US Military in ever major conflict of the last century. They have also been featured in numerous ways in movies, TV, print and assorted popular culture. Also, Thomas Magnum used one, so that is good for some bonus points.


Technically they tend to be very good shooters. The most accurate gun in my collection is a Wilson 1911, but I have Colts and SAs that shoot almost as well.
 
I have been seeing a lot of "chatter" about 1911's, I've never owned one.
I have a Springfield XD 45 that I enjoy shooting...(mostly I shoot 9 mm)
so, what is the hoopla about the 1911's
Do I need one? Dumb question, but if I do buy...what to look for...

Do you need one? No. But they are fun.

what to look for

what do you want to do?

For my first (and only, and may be last) I went with a Rock Island GI .45, as closest to the original spec. It's reliable.
 
If you mostly shoot 9mm there are probably other guns you would enjoy more. Personally I think every 9mm lover needs a beretta 92fs. Its not that its my favorite but they are well built guns and we all grew up watching Die Hard, Leathal Weapon etc. etc. so even though its Italy it feels iconic in America.

Now if you just love 45acp.... yes you need a 1911. Its a big low capacity heavy hunk of steel that handles nice for most people and you get to go around saying 1911 this... 1911 that..... 45acp this....45acp that.

My personal view is everybody "needs" a solid 357 magnum revolver of at least 4-6" in barrel length and a good 12ga pump shotgun. Those two guns with all the versatility in loads can work for most situaltions as well as anything given you have had some practice. After that maybe a 400 yard bolt action deer rifle.

Now.... most gun enthusiasts are nerds and we all think we often look for any reason to justify another purchase. I personally have needed a Beretta 93r since I started reading Mack Bolan books but ...... it aint happening.

If you want a 1911 though go for it. Most people like them. They are good solid old fashioned semi autos. There is lots you can do with them in terms of customizing or you can leave it plain. I personally think they are nice in 38super. The 45acp is a bit of a dated cartridge in standard loads. Its big but its very slow. +p 45acp is a bit better. What we need is a 11mm..... better yet a 12mm.
 
When I came back to shooting regularly for the first time in 65 years, a 1911 Springfield Arms Range Officer in 9mm, was my second purchase. It was recommended by my LGS guru, former Ranger Armorer. Been pleased with it; and, the other 8, or 9 1911s purchased since then. My first purchase five years ago was a Kahr 9mm for concealed carry. Now carry a Kimber Micro9, or a Shield 45ACP, depending.

Had a .22lr Anschutz target rifle I carried around during most of that 65 years.

Every shooter should at least try a 1911 in whatever caliber you prefer. I've heard the 1911 in .38 Super is a dream pistol. My experience is in 9mm and .45ACP. Satisfied with both.

These days I tend to buy STIs,1911 and 2011, along with SIGs and CZs. Have bought and sold over 50 pistols in the past five years. Haven't found a "bad" one, yet. Some better than others.

Today's favorites for everyday shooting, are SIG p210 (newest version, also had a Swiss version, prefer the newer one) a SIG X-5 L1 and a CZ Tactical Sport. Also ,some target .22lr models. Still wind up shooting a 1911 at least a couple of times a month,
 
I've found the 1911 to be infectious.. For some reason I love the guns. If you decide you 'need' one there are almost too many choices. A decent place to start it the Ruger offerings. For the modest price they produce an excellent 'starter' 1911 IMO.

Good luck
 
If you live in a magazine capacity restricted (i.e., “socialist”) state such as CA, NY, NJ, CT, etc., you won’t feel deprived with a 1911 since you normally only have a maximum 10 round capacity anyway. And these are generally really nice guns to shoot, regardless of caliber.
 
back to the OP. The market is flooded with them. I would say get a basic model that is milspec or close to it. Then play with it for a while before dropping a bunch of cash on one. The RIA models are a good start and not expensive. Even the ATI gets good reviews. Stay away from oddballs like the old Llamas, AMT etc. etc. 45acp or 38 super and you should be good. 9mm 1911s can be problematic and often need tweeking along with high end magazines.

If you want to go semi custom from the factory Metro Arms, RIA, and even Taurus are good for the Money IMO. Ruger are a little more but good to go.

Or you can just go full bore and drop a few grand on a custom build LOL.
 
My 1911 is one of my favorite guns to shoot. I'll carry it from time to time and never feel under gun. 1911 has been a fight stopper for over 100 years.
 
For a first one I'd go with a Rock Island. They're not pretty but they run with the best of them and have a lifetime of the gun warranty and excellent customer support if you ever need it.
 
My first 1911 I bought after leaving the USN was a Colt 1991A1. Much later I bought a SA XD in .45. I keep going back to the Colt. I hand load and the darn thing eats every kind of bullet I feed it. The XD, not so much. After about 3000 rounds I replaced the recoil spring in the Colt. I found it was starting to hammer the slide. The spring was down to about 12lbs. Full power loads gave that feeling. The odd thing about the 1911 is the more you use it the better the trigger gets. That is if it was made to JMB's specs. Some companies want reinvent the innards. Not a good idea.

In the end it not what to buy but how much can you afford. RIA does make a good starter 1911. With the after market parts you can modify it to your hearts content.

Add: I also have a Remington in stainless. I still like the Colt.
 
They are good shooters. If it's a full-sized steel version, 45acp doesn't recoil that much. They feel good in the hand. The less expensive ones, like RIA, can be had new for $400 or so. Used maybe closer to $300. They are fun to shoot and you certainly wouldn't be unarmed with one for SD. I have several and like them very much.
 
the heart and soul is the trigger, once you shoot one you cant go back. Everything else about the pistol was ahead of its time, the ergonomics of the singlestack grip and angle, low bore axis, straight pull SAO trigger set the bar today's pistols copy but few get all in one package.
 
I consider the 1911 to be something of a "staple" in the shooting world. I think every shooter needs to spend a little time with one, just to see what the hoopla is all about. Mine is a Springfield Armory. It started life as the old GI model, but it was a bit of a jam-o-matic. A gunsmith tuned it for me, and that problem has been solved, and in spades. I don't carry it any more, but it's always a pleasure to shoot. I also shoot it distinctly better than my G19. Once I made the transition to carrying my Glock, I didn't shoot it for a couple of years. When I picked it up again, I was astounded at how well I shot it.

In any event, maybe you need a 1911, maybe not, OP. You'll have to decide that. With that said, here's bac1023's Buyer's guide for all you 1911 addicts.
 
BarryLee could not have said it better.

Avoid getting a 1911 at all costs....once you get one, you will need to get one custom for you....you will starve your children to get that one!
 
My shooting buddy and I both got 1911's brand-new for a little under $400. Mine is Turkish and his is Filipino. He got a better deal, with improved sights and larger beavertail. Mine is strictly GI style. They are both perfectly reliable with good triggers.

There are also surplus Star 1911-style pistols in 9mm widely available in the $200-something dollar rage. They are basically 1911's without the grip safety in 9mm. I own a full-size (Super B) and a smaller one (BM). They are both excellent shooters. After my friend shot my Super B he immediately ordered one for himself.

No doubt the $1,000 ones are more fun to shoot, but you can get a 1911 or 1911-style pistol inexpensively that will be fun enough and shoot very well.
 
I second getting a Star Super B if you want a 9mm. Other than that, the classic 45 then. I'm sure at some point during Holiday dinners, my boys will get into a discussion about who gets which 1911, when I start to disperse them. I'm not a fan of "safe trigger" striker fired guns. I need a single action trigger (DA/SA is OK) and a thumb safety. Every red blooded American gun owner should have a 1911. Get a basic one but with better than GI sights.
 
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