1911's make better Ball point Pen launching mortars

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Mithirium

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I thought I would share some "Brilliant" and "Valuable" conclusions I have come up with after many years of tinkering and testing.

I shoot 1911's and Glocks. After all the tinkering I've done on 1911 actions, I will generally test the series 80 safety and trigger mechanism by placing a ball point pin in the barrel flat top first. When I pull the trigger the pen is generally catapulted about 25 ft from the energy of the firing pin strike. (A good way to test the funtion in your garage) I have also performed the same "TEST" with my Glock pistols. The ball point pen generally barely leaves the barrel from its striker hit.

Conclusion
Glocks Suck, or 1911's make better Ball point Pen launching mortars carrying a range of payloads about 20-25ft.
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Aw come on...... I wanted to share some trivial bit of knowledge with you'all and start to poke a funny. Oh Well,at least I didn't fail to seat the ball point pens firmly against the breech face and pass off the results as some godsend of knowledge :p
 
Well I thought it was amusing :D

Dont let anyone keep you from bieng yourself...once you lose your corners, you never get 'em back...
 
I discovered this earth shaking news back when the Series 80 Colts first came out. This is a good way to check the gun to see if you have the firing pin safety lever and firing pin safety mechanism reinstalled properly.

7th
 
Just make sure you have the primers seated correctly on those ballpoints!! Don't want to pull a Wild Romanian!!

I frequently do the pen/firing pin test on my guns. Easy way to make sure gun will go bang.:D
 
I use new wooden pencils, erasor end toward the breech. Test primer strike after gun work. New pencil for consistancy of projectile.

Sam
 
I DON'T MAKE BIC AMMO

Cross, Mont Blanc, etc.
Get 50-65ft with my ultra-performance pen ammo.
Bring money.

"hey look! I can write on the fly"
 
I use unsharpened pencils as well. I have a two year old for writing on the walls, don't need to be shooting writing implements at them myself.
 
Boy, have I been doing it wrong for all these years! I test my Glocks and 1911's with live ammo, and it always tells the tale. :)
 
Mattel knows best

That is the reasoning behind Mattel developing the toy gun 1911 suction cup dart gun.You know the one I'm talking about,orange every toy store carries them, with the suction cup dart on the end.We used to shoot pencils after we tore up the suction cups as kids.SAFE-SHOOTING!
 
ABSOLUTELY LMAO, now that is a real "TEST".

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Pencil shooting is a way to go. I figure pencil will fly further
and hit harder if loaded into primed pistol case with some powder. WR got to pick this project and report results.
 
Glock striker vs 1911 hammer pin system.

Hmm.... after making my "Test" assertions from before I got out the ole physics book and checked up on the newtonian physics section.

Glock striker vs 1911 hammer pin system.
Springs store energy in proportion to a constant and the amount of compression. the equation is F=kx
F =Force, k = efficiency constant for the specific spring, x = linear distance of compression

1911 Have heavier springs then glocks, thus they impart more force on the projectile base then Glocks. This figure must be realistically not more than 2x the force of a Glock striker. I will look into precise spring measurements in the future (dont hold your breath). So lets say for the sake of argument that a 1911 firing pin spring can impart 10 ft-lbs of force and a Glock striker can impart 5 ft-lbs of force.
Does it matter? I think marginally.

How is this important with respect to the Pencil/Pen projectile?
Force actually isn't the deciding factor of Pencil chucking.
Its the Unit of work known as joules in metric and slugs in English units (I think).
work = force X distance (its actually a scalar dot product so you math guys please disregard my cross product indicator and just interpret it as a scalar mutiplication)

Here is the meat of my theory. The amount of work done on our pencil projectiles in 1911's is much greater. why? because 1911 firing pins can protrude throught breech face, significantly farther then a glock striker. Consider it firing pin over travel. whats the average distance of protrusion in a 1911 firing pin? my estimate is about 1.5cm. How far can a Glock striker protrude from the breach face? my estimate is about 3mm or roughly 5 times less than the 1911.
Thus if you go back to (work) = (force applied) X (distance its applied for) You get the logical conclusion that the firing pin over travel causes the pencil projectiles to travel farther.
Think of it as pushing a heavy box. If you apply a force on it for a short distance it will not travel as far as if you the apply the same force for a much greater distance. The answer to our dilemma.

Take that Wild Pomeranian!
It may be rediculous but its based on sound scientific reality!
To those of you who are wondering why?
I'm sorry ;)

I forgot to add that pens have the tactical advantage being able carry payloads of various explosives and biologicals. Pencils only have the ability to splinter and cause gangreen like the urban legend german ww2 thing. (I know its late and I have no life)
 
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