1911 or SIG 220?

Either one will do, but try to handle them first because I thought the 220 has a significantly boxier muzzle and butt that makes carry tougher if that's a concern.

As anybody who has been here long, they know my vote is for the Colt as that's my favorite, but the SIG is also a good choice.

My own collection is down to Colt 45s, Glocks, and S&W revolvers. I have owned most all of them though, and the SIG is next to the Colt 45 in MHO.

Enjoy whatever you choose.

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I like the SIG--and I started with 1911s in 1959, went through Gunsite with one, carried one for work for a while.

The SIG is a fine piece of machinery out of the box, and all the LEOs I qualified with it did well. The ergonomics continue to surprise me. If I had it to do all over again I would probably have carried one for 20 years with great satisfaction.

I view the 1911 today as either a bit of an anachronism (in civilian use) or as a great military go-to-war gun. It's a lot harder to clean sand out of a SIG than it is a 1911!

And, of course, I own both. (But carry a 4" .357 DA revolver.)



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I have a couple 220's, and a few 1911's. One 1911 in particular is a Colt 1911 XS which was just as good stock out of the box as both 220's which is to say all were/are excellent. If you really want a stock 1911 than I'd recommend you take the Colt now before they become harder to find, and you can snag a 220 later. If it's a 1911 that you want all smithed up then just save a little more and go with a Kimber and you won't have to have the customizing done later...Dan in GA
 
"1911
Infinite upgrade possibilites or plain ole box stock fun."

And it needs lots of upgrades just to work right. Stick with the sig if you want a RELIABLE sidearm.
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I'd recommend the P220 first. I've got both...., and if I was truly limited to only one, it'd be the 220.
 
At the risk of being flamed, I must respond to those who think that the 1911 must be customized to work. That is simply not true! Box stock 1911's can be as reliable and usable as any other weapon. Now, I own customized Colts's, but not because they didn't work. I just like the personal touch!
 
The Sig P220. I have both. I've owned the 1911 much longer, and it has been in semi-retirement since i picked up the Sig. There is NO comparison - the Sig is vastly superior.
 
I have owned both and sold the Sig because the slide rusted badly. I also do not like alloy framed guns. Aluminum has its place, in air planes and wheel chairs, but not guns.
I have 18 1911's and only two of them, a P-13 and a Kimber Custom Combat Carry Model have alloy frames. Go for the Colt and buy the Sig later if you must have one, mine was unreliable and after the slide rusted, I traded it for my first Randall .45.

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I love my SIG. Its only quirk seems to be rusting, but I'm going to drop the cash and have it refinished with an actual protective finish in a couple of months. I read a recent test that Wiley Clapp (I think) did for Gun World, comparing the Mil-Spec to the Loaded to the Trophy Match to see what the increase in price buys. I was a little surprised. Though I haven't tested it formally, I think my 220 groups closer to the Trophy Match than the Loaded.

Recently as the novelty of owning a .45 wore off a bit I started to think about how great it would be to have a .45 with a nice single-action trigger and a safety. There was a stainless Loaded model at the local gunshop. I was shocked at how uncomfortable it seemed when I picked it up! The SIG has spoiled me. Now that it seems that it might not be as reliable or accurate as my beloved SIG right out of the box, I just can't justify spending the money. I'm going to get a used *$* 686 instead, if I ever find the money. ;)
Good luck.
 
I was at the gunstore earlier, I handled the Loaded model and the Mil Spec side by side. The Springfield Mil Spec is BAD-ASS!!! I have shot and handled the Loaded model, but let me tell you, anyone who is purchasing a base 1911 HAS to get this gun. It was tighter than my Custom Classic, easier to aquire sights, better finish, better trigger, better everything. Forget this Sig 220 nonsense, it may shoot well but I saw a friend take his apart at the range, what a joke. Too high maintenance for me.

It's all about the Mil Spec man, CAN YOU DIG ????
 
I have both, and I like the Sig better. It's EASIER to disassemble and maintain than the Colt 1911, it's more accurate, and it's more reliable (out of the box of course).

[This message has been edited by ether (edited October 08, 2000).]
 
Not too long ago I was shopping for a .45. I was impressed with the Sig P220, but ended up buying an HK USP 45. You might see if you like it.
 
Go for the Colt and buy the Sig later if you must have one, mine was unreliable and after the slide rusted, I traded it for my first Randall .45.
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Sorry bud but I know everyone can make a lemon but why trade a lemon sig for a 1911 company thats known for its orchards of lemons. Sigs have since upgraded their finish and rusting is no longer the problem it once was.
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The key to your question lies in the fact that you live in The People's Republic of Mass. As of today, you can buy a "Mass complient" Sig anytime. None of the 1911 clones are legal,new. Grab the 1911 now, then save for the Sig.
Or you could do what I did, rent a U-Haul and move to the Live Free or Die State.
P.S. I own both guns, both are great.
 
Whoops- forgot to post here to tell you what I got. A Colt "Combat Government" .45. See the thread "Colt Combat Government" for more. Thanks!
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Well, I've never had any experience with the SIG P220. But, for a while, right out of the academy, I carried the Colt Government and the Officer's model. Great guns, had the usual throat and polish jobs done. However, I just never really got used to the cocked and locked thing. Then, a fellow officer got this new pistol called a SIG SAUR P226. We went to the range and I got to put a few rounds through it. The following week I got me one of those P226s. That was over 12 years ago. I've carried it daily ever since. So, what does all this rambling have to do with? If you're going to carry the .45 for self protection or ccw get the SIG! The Colt is a fine collector's piece. However, even though I had my Colts throated and polished by a well known and recommend smith, who by the way, did most of the LEOs 1911s in the Houston area. I would still have an occasional misfeed/stovepipe. However, with the SIG I've yet to have "1" in over 12 years!

So, if you want to end up spending triple the cost of an original SIG to have all the bells and whistles done to the 1911 to have it shoot and function like a SIG then go for it.

Get the SIG!

Ted Nugent-My kind of philosophy and rock and roll!
 
Oops, hit the reply button too soon. If the 1911 is a Colt, and the price is going up, as I think you said, get it before the price goes up any more.
 
I have one Sig P220 which I carry for my on-duty uniform weapon. I`ve trained with it for years and am very comfortable with it.

I also have over 1/2 dozen 1911s including some left hand variants. I`ve modified a couple of 1911s myself.

So which gun would I choose? If given a situation where everything fell apart, the 1911. It`s the easier of the two guns to service and parts are readily available everywhere. The Sig P220 isn`t hard to work on, but unless you have a bag of parts laying around, don`t expect to be able to get it back in service. Mind you, about the only thing I`ve ever replaced on the Sig is the trigger spring on one gun, firing pin spring and of course, the roll pins which hold the slide together. Other than that, Sig parts do have good longevity. As noted gunsmith and Olympic Shooter Bob Chow once said, the 1911 is a gun the common GI can work on with a minimum of tools.
 
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