1851 Navy Confederate .44 Cal

I was watching that Remington on Gunbroker

John,

Congrats on the purchase. I had the one on Gunbroker on my watch list. When it was clear it was going above 80.00 I just watched. I do hope the pistol serves you well. I would personally be interested in knowing how it is when you go over it.
 
Ooop! I forgot to mention

Might try auctionarms.com as well. Not as popular so the searches produce fewer results but it does represent another source.
 
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Since Gunsamerica has been mentioned I want to give a heads up. To be a seller on gunsamerica you do not need to give any financial information, ie no credit card as part of seller registration. I have read that several guys have been ripped off, so make sure you buy from someone with more than one or two feedbacks.
Gunbroker requires seller to give much more info and I feel it's a safer place to buy. Heck, between me and SG buying we keep that place a'float. rant off.


Doc Hoy, it appears you are interested in the guns of the confederacy. They sucked me in. Do a search on the High Standard "Guns of the Confederacy" They made three different cased sets. Like the 2nd and 3rd gen Colts they used Italian raw forgings/castings and then made their own small parts. They are a very nice revolver, as nice as the newer Colts, but in a brass frame. The Leech & Rigdon is steel frame.
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Not that sophistocated yet

Madcratebuilder,

You said, "it appears you are interested in the guns of the confederacy." I can't really say that I am. But I will certainly check the source you provided. I wound up with two which could best be described as having Confederate prototypes.

I bought the new "Round Barrel 1851 Navy Colt" (Their name) from Cabela's because, A) I didn't have one, and B) it was on sale. My less-than-well-informed thought was that the brass frame marks it as Confederate and with Mykeal's assistance, the round barrel makes it either Griswold & Gunnison or Leech and Rigdon. However it is a .44 and I can find nothing with tells me that either manufacturer produced pistols in that caliber. My thought that at a total run of just over 5000 pistols between the two builders which occurred over a period of time in which several factory moves were necessary, it isn't likely that either manufacturer was in a position to either retool for the larger caliber or run lines for two different calibers simultaneously. I think they made only .36s.

Then, by accident I came up with one at the gun show (That would be the same gun show that I have been griping about in a different thread.). This is a Navy Arms, brass frame, round barreled 1851 Navy in .44 Cal. Essentially it is identical to the Pietta from Cabela's but is marked Navy Arms.

For the used one, I gave eighty bucks, replaced the spring, polished up the brass and I swear to you it is every bit, the pistol that the brand new Pietta is.

So my affinity for Confederate revolvers is completely accidental. I have no intention of rushing out and buying a LeMat.
 
I bought the new "Round Barrel 1851 Navy Colt" (Their name) from Cabela's because, A) I didn't have one, and B) it was on sale.
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Me too, I got suckered in on the price, nice revolver. My plan is to make it a belly gun. 2.5 inch barrel and round the grip frame in the back.

Then, by accident I came up with one at the gun show (That would be the same gun show that I have been griping about in a different thread.). This is a Navy Arms, brass frame, round barreled 1851 Navy in .44 Cal.
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I have a Navy Arms brass 51 Navy in .36 that was made by Uberti in 64, nice little gun. It has been antiqued at one time. I want to defarb the barrel and frame and redo the antique finish.
Nothing wrong with these brass frame guns, keep the load reasonable and they should last a long time. I have five all together now.
 
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Is there a historical prototype for these revolvers in .44?
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No. There were no brass framed (bronze gunmetal) .44 cal revolvers made by either side. They are an invention of the replica manufacturers.

The only .44 cal revolvers made by Confederate manufacturers were the Tucker & Sherrod - which was a clone of the Colt 2nd Model Dragoon - and the Dance Brothers & Park revolvers - Iron frames with no recoil sheilds. The Dance Brothers revolver was also made in .36
 
So it was YOU!

MCB,

I think it was you who actually tipped me off to the sale at Cabela's in another thread. BTW, I did what you recommended a few posts ago and got on their emailing list.

Thanks for that tip. I like this pistol too, but I won't be taking a hack saw to it. :)
 
Thanks for the info

FM,

Thanks for the info on .44s. This is why I like this forum. There are a lot of people who consistently pay attention to the questions that are asked and then wade in with responses.

One of these days, I will get good enough to actually contribute something.
 
How about this for a brass framed .44?
Rare Prototype Colt Model 1860 Army Percussion Revolver With Mershon Hollingsworth Cocking Device
Description: Serial no. 3803, .44 caliber. Standard cylinder and 7 1/2 inch barrel with New York markings. Custom brass frame with case hardened hammer and oil finished walnut grips. Right side of frame with circular German silver fitting inscribed Mershon Holli
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Wow! I had no idea when I first posted the question about the 1851 Navy this many folks would reply. I thinks it's awsome this many folks are interested in ball and cap pistols. I know that I will be coming back here many times! Thanks for all of the help.
 
Yup!

To Katfish,

I just started shooting again after a long (twenty some years) hiatis. When I was involved the first time, my situation was that the only source of info was magazines, books, and my own trial and error.

This forum is a continual source of great info because there are a load of very knowledgeable people who monitor the posts and who don't mind giving advice.
 
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