1851 Navy .44?

Fingers

I thought the south made some 44's in the navy style. But I guess you're right cause the one I had was a 36. Are you sure? You know, some of those factories made a lot of stuff in desparation. But I guess Pietta made the 44 c navy Confederate revolvers:)
WBH
 
Look at the seller's other auctions. He puts that disclaimer on all of his antiques (at least the ones I looked at).
 
Hardy, I'm as positive as the half dozen books I have on Confederate revolvers are. There were no .44 caliber Navies made by the Confederate (or Union either for that matter) gunmakers.
 
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The Schneider and Glassic was a true 1851 copy except no cylinder scene.
The Schneider and Glassick never existed except for a few "Salesman Samples" shown to CSA authorities in Memphis. There are only 3 known examples, none of the three have the same parts in them, and one of them has an iron frame.

Dang right. All the CSA cone makers only made enough revolvers to keep the .gov money flowing to their bank accounts.
 
How Many More!!!

Please keep the brass frame and enjoy it. No the south didn't make .44 brass anything. Like others have said buy the real deal, or buy Uberti, or Pitta, and be a happy person. Chance's are after you pass on, nobody will care about them like you do anyway. If you want a real 1858 Remington, send me $1600.00 dollars, and I'll go up the street, and buy you one. I have about six Pitta revolvers, and one of them is the brass frame .44 cal you don't like. That is one of the sweetest shooting revolvers I've ever had. You take care of it, and it will probably out last you. If you do want to sell out your revolver's keep me in mine. I'll buy second hand Pietta any day of the week. I been buying them for over 20 years now, and I don't see any reason to stop now. Have a good day. :)
 
1851 Navy .44

I have a pair of steel framed Pietta 1851 Navy .44 PB pistols in 4.87 inch barrels. I call them 1851 Navy hybrids because they seem to be a hybrid between the 1861 Army and the 1851 Navy. Anyhow they are very accurate and pack a good punch and are very quick with the shorter barrel. I just love them because I really liked the 1851 Navy style over the 1860 Army style for some reason, but I wanted a .44 rather than a .36 cal. At the same time I also prefer a shorter barrel for a quicker draw so when I saw these I knew they were historically inaccurate but also a combination that I couldn't resist. I think that they are called the 1851 Navy Sheriff model.
 
Mmontag

I think it would be easier to come up with a list of the BP Pistols I don't like.

It would be a mighty short list.
 
We allknow that the .44 is an incorrect caliber but to be honest, it SHOULD have been produced! The Caliber and feame size blend perfectlly and they shoot great!
I don't know why Colt was so hardheaded that they would not produce a Navy .44! Maybe the Gov't contractsstipulatedthatNONavy's were tobe made in .44??? You know how valuable that Gov't Contract was and Colt was just a businessman afterall!
I am glad that Piettia took it upon themselves to be historically incorrect! Through doing this, we have some really GREAT guns! Obviouslly the .44 would have been an instant success had it been made. Even so, I really love my .36caliber Navy's!
ZVP
 
The government decreed that the navy caliber was to be .36 and the army caliber to be .44. The 60 Army was an improvement over the 51 with larger grips and a creeping loading lever.
 
We allknow that the .44 is an incorrect caliber but to be honest, it SHOULD have been produced

It was, starting in 1873.
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Navy size grip, frame, 7 1/2 inch barrel and they added a neat new topstrap.
 
Navy and Army Colts

After reading the above posts, let me comment that my study of collections of original frontier firearms has led me to the conclusion that just about anything was possible. For example, Colt and Smith & Wesson revolvers were converted to single-shot pistols (one shown herewith, from a collection in Santa Fe); instead, why wouldn't the gunsmith simply order another cylinder from the factory? In like manner, I've handled a 16" Volcanic carbine and a M1866 Winchester carbine altered to single-shot muzzle-loaders. In the same vein (and contrary to what I've read here), the EMF "1851 Pepperbox" does indeed have historical precedents. (See my post on that thread.) So it's certainly possible that someone hung a .44-caliber barrel and cylinder (from one gun or another) on a '51 Navy frame.
 

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So it's certainly possible that someone hung a .44-caliber barrel and cylinder (from one gun or another) on a '51 Navy frame.

It's possible but the frame would have had to have been rebated and then you'd have had a 60 army with a navy grip. So why go to the trouble of having a frame rebated when you could just swap grip frames?
 
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