1847 Walker just arrived!
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Tight Wedge Pin Issue
I am new to black powder shooting and just received my Ubertic 1847 Walker---as noted on your posts, the wedge pi can be a bear to get back in. Despite no obvious obstructions in the arbor, the wedge pin tends to want to go sideways, thereby hanging up when it is reinserted. I purchased a rubber/plastic head hammer that gets the job done but it can still be tough and I do not wish to smash the dickens out of it. Can the pin be filed to decrease its width or does it need to totally penetrate through the other side? Not sure how to proceed?
I am new to black powder shooting and just received my Ubertic 1847 Walker---as noted on your posts, the wedge pi can be a bear to get back in. Despite no obvious obstructions in the arbor, the wedge pin tends to want to go sideways, thereby hanging up when it is reinserted. I purchased a rubber/plastic head hammer that gets the job done but it can still be tough and I do not wish to smash the dickens out of it. Can the pin be filed to decrease its width or does it need to totally penetrate through the other side? Not sure how to proceed?
FloridaVeteran
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Ditto for 1872?
At the risk of "mooching" a bit, since I shoot smokeless, does anyone know if this issue is the same for 1872 open tops? I bought mine from Cimarron and paid the folks in Fredericksburg extra to tune them up for me. The guns shot very well, right out of the box and I was very pleased with Cimarron's service - have three other Cimarrons and all seem flawless. But I didn't know about the short arbor issue or I'd have asked them to make sure it is not a problem.
Thanks to Junkman for the PDF link and to Hellgate for the folded-paper gap gauge.
At the risk of "mooching" a bit, since I shoot smokeless, does anyone know if this issue is the same for 1872 open tops? I bought mine from Cimarron and paid the folks in Fredericksburg extra to tune them up for me. The guns shot very well, right out of the box and I was very pleased with Cimarron's service - have three other Cimarrons and all seem flawless. But I didn't know about the short arbor issue or I'd have asked them to make sure it is not a problem.
Thanks to Junkman for the PDF link and to Hellgate for the folded-paper gap gauge.
Felt wads and yellow jackets!
I'm with Doc Hoy on the felt wad issue. I have shot percussion revolvers for 16 years and always thought that felt wads were for people who wanted to spend money...
I usually used cream of wheat or nothing, and smothered crisco over the ball to help with fouling. After seeing the post on home-made wads, I just bought the felt and beeswax to make them on the cheap.
I do believe that this is the first time I've heard of shooting wasps with a pistol! Well done. I did once shoot a wasp's nest with a full chamber of powder and no ball. Big black spot on the roof of the shade canopy, and no nest remaining...
As mentioned in a previous post, there is a wealth of info on cap n ball revolver shooting/tuning here and on other forums.
Chowmi
I'm with Doc Hoy on the felt wad issue. I have shot percussion revolvers for 16 years and always thought that felt wads were for people who wanted to spend money...
I usually used cream of wheat or nothing, and smothered crisco over the ball to help with fouling. After seeing the post on home-made wads, I just bought the felt and beeswax to make them on the cheap.
I do believe that this is the first time I've heard of shooting wasps with a pistol! Well done. I did once shoot a wasp's nest with a full chamber of powder and no ball. Big black spot on the roof of the shade canopy, and no nest remaining...
As mentioned in a previous post, there is a wealth of info on cap n ball revolver shooting/tuning here and on other forums.
Chowmi
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Shims
On my Pistols I cut round Shim from machinist shimstock or you can use feeler gauges for shimstock. This puts an end to the arbor dilemma and you can adjust as fine as you want.
On my Pistols I cut round Shim from machinist shimstock or you can use feeler gauges for shimstock. This puts an end to the arbor dilemma and you can adjust as fine as you want.
1847 Walker Just Arrived
Regarding the tight wedge issue [again]---I double checked that I was inserting the wedge from the right side, which I was, and I also did some minimal lubing to the wedge to ease the fit. Bottom line, it was still tough to insert.
I then fully removed the wedge and looked into the arbor---again remembering I am new to black powder guns, I noticed that there appeared to be two protrusions into the rectangular arbor: they are likely circular in cross section, and looking in from the right side of the Walker, the closer one is on the right, the one on the far side is on the left.
My suspicion (please correct me if you know) is, if these are not flaws, that these help to align the wedge when reinserted. However, I watched a "YouTube" video of cleaning/reassembling the Walker and the young man in the video reinserted the wedge with thumb, not plastic hammer, pressure.
I have e-mailed Cabelas on this but would like you input---perhaps time, and wear will make insertion easier but I just want to insure this is not a flaw.
Thanks much and I have really appreciated the help.
Regarding the tight wedge issue [again]---I double checked that I was inserting the wedge from the right side, which I was, and I also did some minimal lubing to the wedge to ease the fit. Bottom line, it was still tough to insert.
I then fully removed the wedge and looked into the arbor---again remembering I am new to black powder guns, I noticed that there appeared to be two protrusions into the rectangular arbor: they are likely circular in cross section, and looking in from the right side of the Walker, the closer one is on the right, the one on the far side is on the left.
My suspicion (please correct me if you know) is, if these are not flaws, that these help to align the wedge when reinserted. However, I watched a "YouTube" video of cleaning/reassembling the Walker and the young man in the video reinserted the wedge with thumb, not plastic hammer, pressure.
I have e-mailed Cabelas on this but would like you input---perhaps time, and wear will make insertion easier but I just want to insure this is not a flaw.
Thanks much and I have really appreciated the help.
When I bought my first Uberti Dragoon I noticed that most all the Dragoons the man had in the case had the same problem with the wedge you could take your finger and push the wedges back and forth. I went on and got the one I wanted anyway and after firing a couple cylinders full it went to working like it should. I tried to show the guy in the store what was causing the problem that the wedge was almost bottomed out and the cylinders were hard to turn when you pulled the hammer back. I think he was more in to getting them sold than lessing to me. I mean what the heck do I know. 