120 lb Woman Condemned by Animal Lovers for Killing Monster 1,025 lb Alligator-- PICS
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LanceOregon
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comn-cents:
You are definitely trying to hijack this thread at this point and trying to take it off topic. That is extremely rude behavior on your part. The only person behaving in an immature and trollish manner in this thread is yourself.
Some of the admins here have even participated in this thread. And they have obviously seen no problem with this topic.
Your car accident analogy could not be more bogus and off-base. That is nothing even remotely associated with hunting. In this case, this woman had to have a hunting license and get a tag in order to hunt this animal. There is no question whatsoever that she was involved in both hunting, and that a firearm was used to finally dispatch the animal.
You are being extremely unreasonable in your comments. It seems like you are deliberately trying to sabotage this thread and force the admins here to close it, by stirring things up so much by engaging in personal attacks on others here.
You certainly are not living up to your ID. You are displaying no common sense whatsoever.
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You are definitely trying to hijack this thread at this point and trying to take it off topic. That is extremely rude behavior on your part. The only person behaving in an immature and trollish manner in this thread is yourself.
Some of the admins here have even participated in this thread. And they have obviously seen no problem with this topic.
Your car accident analogy could not be more bogus and off-base. That is nothing even remotely associated with hunting. In this case, this woman had to have a hunting license and get a tag in order to hunt this animal. There is no question whatsoever that she was involved in both hunting, and that a firearm was used to finally dispatch the animal.
You are being extremely unreasonable in your comments. It seems like you are deliberately trying to sabotage this thread and force the admins here to close it, by stirring things up so much by engaging in personal attacks on others here.
You certainly are not living up to your ID. You are displaying no common sense whatsoever.
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comn-cents
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LanceOregon "You are definitely trying to hijack this thread at this point and trying to take it off topic. That is extremely rude behavior on your part. The only person behaving in an immature and trollish manner in this thread is yourself".
I'm definitely not trying to hijack this thread. I haven't been disrespectfu,l all I've done is asked MY question. I'm one person here who doesn't make the connection with someone fishing for alligators and then she was tired and shot it. So some admins posted here, so what. Some haven't.
You are being disrespectful by accusing me of being disrespectful.
One person tells me to stop trolling, another says he can show me where to put it. I asked a question about a thread that I was disagreeing with. That's it. Who is disrespectful?
I'm definitely not trying to hijack this thread. I haven't been disrespectfu,l all I've done is asked MY question. I'm one person here who doesn't make the connection with someone fishing for alligators and then she was tired and shot it. So some admins posted here, so what. Some haven't.
You are being disrespectful by accusing me of being disrespectful.
One person tells me to stop trolling, another says he can show me where to put it. I asked a question about a thread that I was disagreeing with. That's it. Who is disrespectful?
She was not alligator fishing, but rather alligator HUNTING. There are parallels between fishing and alligator hunting, such as using line and hooking them, but this sport is in fact hunting. I think that is where your disconnect is. This is alligator hunting in the hunting section. Not alligator fishing in the hunting section.
Also it is not that she got tired and shot it, that is how you alligator hunt
Also it is not that she got tired and shot it, that is how you alligator hunt
LanceOregon
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You are being disingenuous here, as you have done far more than that. You went on to make a totally inappropriate and irrelevant analogy. Your car accident analogy is nothing even remotely like alligator hunting. And then you have engaged in personal attacks against two people in this thread.
Your question itself is totally bogus and invalid.
Just go to the official South Caroline web page for Alligator hunting:
http://www.dnr.sc.gov/wildlife/alligator/drawhunt.html
It is NOT referred to as Alligator fishing, as you so falsely claim. To hunt alligators in South Carolina, you have to have a hunting license, NOT a fishing license. You also have to draw a tag to take an alligator too.
So your whole question is based on a completely false premise.
There is no way that such a question can be answered, for it is not a legitimate question.
You are just trying to stir things up. That is obvious.
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grubbylabs
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Notice how on the show swamp people they usually kill the gator with a .22? wonder if she could have done it with a .22. I am not sure I would opt for a .22 but it did kinda make me think.
Any one here brave enough to shoot a gator like that with a 22?
Notice how on the show swamp people they usually kill the gator with a .22? wonder if she could have done it with a .22. I am not sure I would opt for a .22 but it did kinda make me think.
Any one here brave enough to shoot a gator like that with a 22?
LateNightFlight
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Pssssssh. I see gators that big all the time. (in my nightmares)
Too bad all the creatures that were eaten by this thing don't have a say on gator hunting. I bet they're for it.
Too bad all the creatures that were eaten by this thing don't have a say on gator hunting. I bet they're for it.
comn-cents
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LanceOregon "You are being disingenuous here"
No, you are jumping to conclusions all over the place, telling me my reasons for my post. I didn't attack anyone here, maybe you should look in the mirror? So you disagree with me analogy, that's okay, so move on.
No, you are jumping to conclusions all over the place, telling me my reasons for my post. I didn't attack anyone here, maybe you should look in the mirror? So you disagree with me analogy, that's okay, so move on.
Magnum Wheel Man
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was a good thread...
butt... 3... 2... 1.... bye bye
butt... 3... 2... 1.... bye bye
It is not a matter of him disagreeing with your analogy; it is that it is logically invalid and a poor analogy. There is a measure for rightness and wrongness of analogies. Using this, your analogy was wrong and invalid. You can’t go off spouting random analogies that contain no analog to the topic at hand, say it is ok and anyone who thinks it is not ok is just disagreeing with you. Your analogy was not relevant or valid. Just admit it was wrong and that you were wrong about whether or not this post should be in this section.
On a different note. This and that show Swamp People has got me interesed in Gator hunting. I have some family in FL and I have thought about going down there to do this. I am not sure if you need to get drawn for a tag in FL though. I think it would be fun and a big rush. I would be tempted to make an alligator suite, boots, hat and holster if i got that monster
On a different note. This and that show Swamp People has got me interesed in Gator hunting. I have some family in FL and I have thought about going down there to do this. I am not sure if you need to get drawn for a tag in FL though. I think it would be fun and a big rush. I would be tempted to make an alligator suite, boots, hat and holster if i got that monster
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Magnum Wheel Man
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maybe one more comment before the thread gets closed...
I think it's interesting "how" the gators are hunted, & how many different methods of hunting varried game there is out there... birds, coons, fox, yotes, or bears using dogs, bears over bait, & how those methods are acceptable in different areas... perhaps "CENTS" finds using the modified fishing gear as part of the hunt of gators either unusual, or offensive???
but I think that we as sportsmen & women need to stick together... to switch gears, ( being "hypathetical" here ) maybe I prefer baiting bear, to using dogs, but if it's legal & acceptable in certain areas, I as a sportsman have to accept that... & as long as it's legal to use bait, where I like to hunt, I should keep my nose out of those other hunters business that prefer to use dogs ( hey maybe they'll tree a bear over my bait staition, & I'll be there waiting before the dog hunters get there ??? )
anyway... this is a big world, & hunting proceadures are different all over the world... "in Rome... do as the Romans do"
I think it's interesting "how" the gators are hunted, & how many different methods of hunting varried game there is out there... birds, coons, fox, yotes, or bears using dogs, bears over bait, & how those methods are acceptable in different areas... perhaps "CENTS" finds using the modified fishing gear as part of the hunt of gators either unusual, or offensive???
but I think that we as sportsmen & women need to stick together... to switch gears, ( being "hypathetical" here ) maybe I prefer baiting bear, to using dogs, but if it's legal & acceptable in certain areas, I as a sportsman have to accept that... & as long as it's legal to use bait, where I like to hunt, I should keep my nose out of those other hunters business that prefer to use dogs ( hey maybe they'll tree a bear over my bait staition, & I'll be there waiting before the dog hunters get there ??? )
anyway... this is a big world, & hunting proceadures are different all over the world... "in Rome... do as the Romans do"
grubbylabs
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Well cgbill all you would have to do to make something like that into a pair of boots and a suit with a nice top hat would be to wait for him to open wide and then clime on in.
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I would, heck that kid on swamp people missing a tooth has shot some why couldnt I?
that one guy almost fell in and he still shot that gator. Croc dundee used a knife, a large knife but a knife all the same.....My cousins live down south wrestle gators at a gator farm for people to come see, they feed em up first tho
Now that guy was on swamp loggers, he was kinda crazy, he looked for them bubbles and jumped in hoping to get a gator......he was logging not hunting tho..
Loiusianna allows using bait, do other states allow that too? Thats like line fishing for big cat fish. cept them cat fish dont eat you if you fall in...
I recently saw another post to about the same affect on the forum somewhere, and I tend to disagree. I don't think a hunter's sense of ethics should be based on "well, it's legal, so it's okay."
There are some legal hunting practices that I find far more offensive than illegal ones. In my area, there is no law explicitly stating that a deer can't be killed only for its antlers. Meanwhile, there IS a law that a scope can't be used on a muzzle loader during muzzle loader deer season. Which is more acceptable: hunter who legally kills a deer, cuts the antler off and leaves the rest, or a muzzle loader hunter who has a scope on his gun when he's not supposed to?
To me, we are in a very sad state as a society when right and wrong is determined by the laws of government rather than the values of individuals. That's not to say laws shouldn't be abided by, but that they should serve as a check on people who lack personal morals rather than the definition of what is moral.
Sorry for getting way off topic, but I just wanted to respond while it was on my mind.
Double Naught Spy
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comn-cents, the old guys that would side with you that used to hunt alligators the right way, you know, where they stalked them through the swamps on foot like real manly men and not any of that nambipambi stuff about sitting in a stand over bait or shooting fished gators on a line was because all those "real hunters" got chewed up, eaten, or got smart and realized there was a better way to "hunt" them.
It has been my experience that the locals usually know the best way to do things given the circumstances.
Nobody hunts the right way anymore, wearing a loin cloth and chasing down game on foot with a sharp stick or pointy rock. I wonder why that is....uh, no I don't.
The lady was hunting gator. That is the commonly accepted terminology for what she was doing as stated by the the locals and professionals who engage in the endeavor and by those states who issue licenses for the practice. If you don't like it, go convince the governing bodies.
It has been my experience that the locals usually know the best way to do things given the circumstances.
Nobody hunts the right way anymore, wearing a loin cloth and chasing down game on foot with a sharp stick or pointy rock. I wonder why that is....uh, no I don't.
The lady was hunting gator. That is the commonly accepted terminology for what she was doing as stated by the the locals and professionals who engage in the endeavor and by those states who issue licenses for the practice. If you don't like it, go convince the governing bodies.
Magnum Wheel Man
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idek... I completely agree with you... um... at least partially... you would think the local governing bodys would enact rules / laws that reflect what the local people feel as "right" but that is not often the case... though in this case, that seems to be the locally accepted way to hunt, as well as a legal way to do it...
as far as the muzzleloader thing, there will obviously be others to argue with you the other way ( I got chewed out by a forum member for buying a flintlock that had a modified frizzen, because I didn't turn it back to how things were 200 years ago... um.. the rifle was probably made in the 1970's
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anyway, our local DNR changed the rifle / pistol hunting rules for white tail deer a couple years ago to "simplify wording" now reading between the lines, it's perfectly legal to go hunting deer in countys that they often go over 180 lbs with a Colt pocket auto chambered in 25 acp
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as far as the muzzleloader thing, there will obviously be others to argue with you the other way ( I got chewed out by a forum member for buying a flintlock that had a modified frizzen, because I didn't turn it back to how things were 200 years ago... um.. the rifle was probably made in the 1970's
)anyway, our local DNR changed the rifle / pistol hunting rules for white tail deer a couple years ago to "simplify wording" now reading between the lines, it's perfectly legal to go hunting deer in countys that they often go over 180 lbs with a Colt pocket auto chambered in 25 acp
???Magnum, no, cutting antlers off and leaving the body to rot is not locally acceptable in the eyes of most people, but it is apparently legal. I'm not sure it should matter whether most people accept it or not.
I agree that no one person has a right to tell other people how to hunt or to impose one's general morals on another. At the same time, I can't fully buy into the whole "we sportsmen need to stick together" idea. In daily life, I certainly don't associate with criminals. But I also don't associate with those who constantly push the very boundaries of legality either. In the same way, I don't want to align myself with hunters with marginally legal hunting practices.
I agree that no one person has a right to tell other people how to hunt or to impose one's general morals on another. At the same time, I can't fully buy into the whole "we sportsmen need to stick together" idea. In daily life, I certainly don't associate with criminals. But I also don't associate with those who constantly push the very boundaries of legality either. In the same way, I don't want to align myself with hunters with marginally legal hunting practices.
Double Naught Spy
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That gator could eat their fat uncle, or their kid and the kid's kid for desert!
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