12 ga 00 buckshot in 3" for a truck gun?

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cajun47

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i know everyone says 2 3/4" for home defense and i agree but i also keep a mossberg 500 in the truck cause if i can use that in sd over a pistol i sure will.

problem is my mossbergs don't pattern any brand of 2 3/4 00 buckshot to my liking pass 15 yards. there is no law about sd distance and for a truck shotgun i would rather a decent pattern out to 30+ yards. 50 yards would be nice.

the reviews at midway seem to like the remington and federal 3" 00 buckshot with a whopping 15 pellets per shot for dropping deer at 50+ yards.

im waiting for midway to get federal flight control 00 buck in both 2 3/4 and 3 inch. until then i'll try the regular 3" in both brands. just looking for opinions on this.

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http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/default.aspx?productNumber=629487

see anything wrong with these remington 2 3/4 00buck with 12 pellets at 1290 fps???
 
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I am not a fan of 00 Buck or 3" for HD/Tactical. #2 Swanshot minumum to 0 Buckshot are preferred IMO. For distance, however, you'll want the downrange retained energy and improved hit probability even with a wide pattern out there (ITS A SHOTGUN!) so you have gone down the right path.

Note the Mossberg will hold 5 rounds of American 3" shells too as opposed to others which usually don't even hold that many 2-3/4" ones.

As another note, used to be that Winchester (whose ammo I generally avoid because the bullets are so bad) #1 Buckshot used to be the largest buffered pellet size they made that used a full cup.

For range at the end of a shotgun's working envelope, I would not go less than #1 Buck and 3" magnums are obviously implied*.

Gehr

*Someone will invariably come along someday and tell you that magnum shells have no more power than standard ones, just more pellets -- ignore them.
 
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1. Just like with CCW handguns, you need to try differant loads until you find what works best for your needs. Gotta spend a little $, but it is the only way to know for sure.

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there is no law about sd distance and for a truck shotgun i would rather a decent pattern out to 30+ yards. 50 yards would be nice.
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Maybe no law, but claiming self defense when shooting at ranges of 30-50 yards would be a dream come true for an anti-gun, zealot of a prosecutor in most cases!
His claims would be that at that range you were far enough away from the threat to take evasive action.
Not meaning to hijack the thread, but you brought it up.
 
your kind ? Let's not go there. Just common sense advise. If you think I'm wrong, you have to be the judge.
The End. Now, on with answer to your questions, please!
 
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SD, imo, is normally measured in feet by most folks, so that being said you need a 00 load to shoot both feet and yards(0-50 yards). I have shot 2 3/4 00 in various shotguns over the years using mod and full chokes(all I had), never had any to pattern worth a toot in any except the 12 pellet magnum loads. on the other hand 3 inch buffered loads with 15 pellets patterned well for me in both chokes I mentioned above. This is 0-40 yards, the extra 1-10 yards further from 40 I went, the worse the pattern fell apart. Federal and Winchester always seem to pattern tighter than Rem's in 3 inch with the different shotguns I shot. Curious, did you try a skeet or IC choke when you patterned the 2 3/4's?
 
People seem to want to reinvent the wheel and just keep messing with combinations of shot shell size, shot size, weight, etc.

It's so easy, 2 3/4" 00 Buck is just so perfect for shooting for Home Defense / Personal Protection / bear attacks your dog while in the back yard or etv.


Just load up 2 3/4" 00 Buck. Walmart sells 15 packs of Winchester Super X for like less than $10, it's $9.79 or something. Maybe you want some expensive fancy Hornady TAP FPD 00 Buck, maybe you get you some Fiocchi low cost 00 Buck. Whatever you get, it's gravy baby. Load up, test it out, blast it away with your gun to make sure its going to work good and see how it patterns, then load up some more and wait to blast away in anger.
 
Columbia shotguneer brought up chokes. For a truck, I assume you use a short barrel which usually means an open cyllinder (no choke). You may want to specify just what you will be using for a choke. As for claiming self defense with a threat at 50 feet, I can imagine circumstances where the claim would hold some validity. An example might be a hijacking commencing with disabling a truck.

I expect you already have considered slugs, but wish to maximize the use of buckshot.
 
True, it slipped my mind about the topic heading including truck gun, I took it as a gun to carry in the truck, not stuck in a crevace like most truck guns, my bad. Also, I assumed right away a Mossy 500 sported threaded barrels for chokes, bad assumption:o.
 
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I think you're making an exellent choice. I have fired 3" 00 out of a mossy across a ridge about 100 yds 20" barrel no choke and the patterns were clearly visible because of mud splatter on impact. I can confidently say that it would be a rare occasion if you were to miss a human sized target at distances twice as far as you have stated. imo your truck gun could'nt get any better
 
yes, maybe i need to post the type of shotguns, i have 3 mossberg 500s. they all are used hunting shotguns i picked up after hunting season for $100 each. they all full size barrels with changeable chokes. 2 have modified chokes the other i bought improved cyl for close bird hunting. i do carry some slugs in the truck but i really wouldn't want to use them on the street. i plan on buying a short no choke barrel for the house.

"your kind ? Let's not go there."

i went there bra.
 
His claims would be that at that range you were far enough away from the threat to take evasive action.
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"His claims" wouldn't matter much when there is no expectation of retreat over defend...

Stand your ground laws are so named as the requirement to retreat if able is removed from the equation.

My argument is that increased payload with or without increased powder charge will increase recoil. If this increase makes getting a second shot off quickly enuff or flinch factor may make first shot inaccurate, the 2 3/4 would be my choice...

As for patterning at extended range, I never would have thought to increase pellet count... I would have went straight to choke options if I felt I didn't have enuff pellets on target.

Brent
 
2 3/4" or 3" 00 Buckshot is the most effective defense at 25 yards which is less than the average distance of a home invasion shot. Taktikool is right about people trying to reinvent the wheel, coming up with all this BS about what you should use so it doesnt penetrate drywall and whatnot. Your aiming a shotgun at a human being and ready to take his life, the drywall should not be important. And whats all the talk about "your kind"? i dont get it.
 
2 3/4" or 3" 00 Buckshot is the most effective defense at 25 yards which is less than the average distance of a home invasion shot.
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Are you sure about that? I believe my home is average or larger than average and I doubt if the lenght of the largest possible shot is 60 feet; probably less. The average home invasion shot here would be well under a third of your 25 yards. Perhaps you meant feet instead of yards.
 
I think he meant the average home invasion shot is less than the 25 yard effective range he mentions...:rolleyes:

Brent
 
To me carrying a load shot gun in a vehicle not a good thing. You get out, walk in to store some one steals truck or takes gun out of your truck. You got bad things coming your way when you call the police and tell them some one stole or broke in to truck and there is a loaded shot gun behind the seat.
 
You got bad things coming your way when you call the police and tell them some one stole or broke in to truck and there is a loaded shot gun behind the seat.
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Not in florida... Totally legal to carry a gun in any state of readiness you choose in a vehicle up to and including loaded chamber, hammer cocked and safety off...

Brent
 
Love how people can't read.
You get out, walk in to store some one steals truck or takes gun out of your truck.
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What I am saying is if you leave your truck/car with loaded weapon in it unattended you are asking for trouble.
 
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