115gr vs. 124 gr. FMJ Lawman

Always practice with whatever ammo you use when
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Well, I guess some people can afford to go through a couple hundred rounds of Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel every few weeks, but I can't!
I shoot what ever I have found a good price on, or what I reloaded. Brass case that is. At least in my 9MM guns.
I doubt that you can measure the difference in point of impact between 115, and 124. Or between premium defence ammo, and range ammo like Winchester USA.
I will run some of my cary ammo from time to time, but not for regular practice.
 
I would go with the 124 as well, little bit stiffer recoil can do wonders for your followup time when switching back to 115s, also stiffer recoil can help alleviate the affects of limp wristing which is apparently the achilles heel of glocks.
 
Doc Holiday 1950: said:
If you had a choice of getting 500 rounds of Speer Lawman FMJ 9mm at the same cost $109.50 for either 115 grain or 124 grain which would you get for a Glock 19 for training? As always, all responses are welcome.
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I don't think it makes all that much difference shooting a Glock 19. But if I had that same choice every time I bought ammo, I'd take the 124 gr. Speer Lawman FMJ, which is good factory ammo, better than what my own G-19 usually gets to shoot. But the next time you go to buy ammo you might only be able to get the 115 gr. and I'd buy it anyway. My own Glock 19 shoots really well with everything I buy to load it with, I'm sure yours is probably the same.
 
I agree with practicing with the same ammo you carry in your CCW. I do this and I don't buy commercial ammo. My reloads are more accurate than any ammo I can buy and if I have to use my gun I want accuracy. Anyone who can't tell the difference in point of impact with different weight bullets is either not an accurate shooter or is practicing on very close targets.
 
At 25yds there will be a difference in impact, bay at typical defense distances, the difference is not enough to matter.

I actually find 124gr to be smoother shooting than 115gr, I don't notice an increase in recoil.
 
ShootistPRS: said:
I agree with practicing with the same ammo you carry in your CCW. I do this and I don't buy commercial ammo. My reloads are more accurate than any ammo I can buy and if I have to use my gun I want accuracy. Anyone who can't tell the difference in point of impact with different weight bullets is either not an accurate shooter or is practicing on very close targets.
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When the OP asks about using 115 vs. 124 grain Speer Lawman ammo in a Glock 19 I can offer an informed opinion about this since I have used this ammo in my Glock 19. If the OP had asked about shooting a CZ 75B for target accuracy with tailored reloads, and zeroing the gun for the optimum load, well I've done that too, and guess what, my target accuracy with tailored reloads shooting my CZ 75B is undoubtedly better than it is shooting Speer Lawman factory ammo out of my Glock 19, and nobody should be surprised by this. But it's not what we are talking about in this thread, now is it?:confused:
 
Anyone who can't tell the difference in point of impact with different weight bullets is either not an accurate shooter or is practicing on very close targets.
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Well, I am a reasonably good shooter, and practice at a reasonable self defence distance. Any point of impact difference in 115 gr. and 124 gr loads is so negligible to be non existant.
I am completely happy with major ammo makers SD ammo, and not willing to take a chance on an anti-2A prosecutor bringing up my gun being loaded with " custom made, more deadly" ammunition should I need to use it. We all know that is not true, but we all know there are those politicians that might try.
Factory ammunition accuracy is fully adiquate for SD purposes.
 
My experience with Speer Lawman is that it runs hot, so if you use the 124's with the Gold Dot, assuming not +P, it should be good practice. You should run a mag or two of Gold Dot to get a feel for it and also to make sure it feeds properly. The most important aspect for self defense is reliability.

As far as accuracy, when describing how accurate a specific firearm is accuracy means group size. At self defense distances (<= 7 yds) any gun with any ammo you shoot is going to be more accurate than you are when pulling the trigger under that kind of stress in fear for your life.
 
Just a FYI.

My order of Lawman 124 grain FMJ ammo arrived and I went to the Range today. I shot one 15 round mag of 124 grain Gold Dots, one mag of Federal 124 grain HP, then a couple of mags of 124 grain Lawman and those of you that said that the Lawman ammo shot hot were correct. I could tell the difference but not to noticeably different.
Thanks for all the advice. Whatever I will use for SD I'll try to practice with similar
weight FMJ.
 
Awesome, Doc.

I'm a "124" man through n' through. The original, the best, the 124 grain 9x19mm Luger is the champion of the universe. :D
 
I quit shooting 115 gr 9mm ammo years ago. I'm not a fan of 115 gr as I've always felt it's to light. Moved up to 124 gr and it's better but I've always felt the 9mm should be shooting 147 gr and that is what I shoot in mine.

Don't know what it is with 115gr but I've always found 124 and 147 gr to be more accurate. But that is just me, you're observations are what counts for you.
 
115 vs 124

Hi Joed,
Really appreciate your response. It was the same when all I owned were 357 mags. and shot 110 gr 38 ammo out of my SP101 2.5" 357 then accidentally put some of my 158 gr. 357 ammo in it and fired away. Almost dropped my revolver Glad my life wasn't on the line.

Again, Thank You.
 
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