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I think the aesthetics and tight tolerances on a 1911 style 10mm is the ultimate package but you will sacrifice capacity and ease of low cost upgrades. I purchased a gen 4 gray frame G20. I just received my LWD 20-40 conversion barrel for the sole purpose of saving bank. I wish I would have had the patience to source a G40 for the longer sight radius and barrel length. I don't usually trade or sell my purchases as I am typically happy and do my research before I buy. I may consider either a 6" or 9" LWD barrel in 10mm but will probably wait until they produce it in their "Alpha Wolf" line. With non puss ammo I think i will be happy in the long run, but the option for the slide already cut for rmr would be nice... Just think about your POU and what you plan to do with it...Do you want to have a higher capacity with ease of inexpensive upgrades, or do you want elegance and beauty with a big bark?!
 
For me, it's two fold - It's a 1911 thing. It's the platform I shoot the best.

As a police officer (plain clothes investigator daily), my EDC is a 4" Kimber Pro Carry.

I wanted the 10mm for hunting, and capacity in my state is limited to 10 rounds, so a hi-cap anything isn't a benefit to me in 10mm. The Kimber was the logical choice because of the supported chamber, unlike the Colt Delta Elite, and because of availability. There are other options (STI, etc) but they are not readily available in my area, and they aren't in the same ball park cost wise.

Even if I were going to EDC a 10, it would a 1911 platform (DW CBOB) maybe.........
 
For me, it's two fold - It's a 1911 thing. It's the platform I shoot the best.

As a police officer (plain clothes investigator daily), my EDC is a 4" Kimber Pro Carry.

I wanted the 10mm for hunting, and capacity in my state is limited to 10 rounds, so a hi-cap anything isn't a benefit to me in 10mm. The Kimber was the logical choice because of the supported chamber, unlike the Colt Delta Elite, and because of availability. There are other options (STI, etc) but they are not readily available in my area, and they aren't in the same ball park cost wise.

Even if I were going to EDC a 10, it would a 1911 platform (DW CBOB) maybe.........
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I didn't even think of this. If I had a gun capable of more than X number of rounds - X being the max number allowed for hunting then would what I have to do?
 
I didn't even think of this. If I had a gun capable of more than X number of rounds - X being the max number allowed for hunting then would what I have to do?
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Dude, this little exercise in non-decision (a/k/a "paralysis-by-analysis") is becoming mind-numbing. :rolleyes:

Let's make it easy ... Here's a choice:

Glock 40.


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I love my G20 Gen 4, it's the only pistol I have ever owned, I'm much more of a rifleman. But the G40 is sure a beauty, those weren't available when I got my G20. The 1911's are nice guns but I would for sure stick with Glock for price reasons, durability, it eats up any ammo like its starving and has rejected nothing for me, reliability, it can take lots of abuse and fire just like it came out of the box, better capacity, and much more adverse especially with gear and conversions.
 
Agtman is right. If you want power, (and capacity options) the Glock 40 is the way to go.

If you want a commercially loaded round for huntng Deer, the Underwood 180 grain JHP is the load to take into the field. If your quarry is Boar, you'll want to carry either the Underwood 200 grain loads.

In a Glock 40, the Underwood 180 grain XTP will tend to generate 1400 fps from the Glock 40's polygonaly rifled 6.03" barrel. This velocity churns out 783.5 foot-pounds of energy.

Underwood's 200 grain FMJ should leave the 6.03" barrel at approximately 1310 fps and generating 762.3 foot-pounds of knock-down poop.

I would have included Underwood's 220 grain HCFNL load, but Glock advaises against using lead in their polygonal rifling.

These are just educated "guestimations" but they are well-founded in the Glock's proclivity to extract the most of every load.

I wish you well in both your Glock purchase and the quest for your desired quarry.

Good luck, and may God bless.
 
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The 1911's are nice guns but I would for sure stick with Glock for price reasons, durability, it eats up any ammo like its starving and has rejected nothing for me, reliability, it can take lots of abuse and fire just like it came out of the box, better capacity, and much more adverse especially with gear and conversions.
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I think the bottom line is "how much value do you put on the characteristics of the trigger". I think 1911 lovers like me value the 1911 trigger (essentially no trigger movement before the hammer drops, and a very light force on the trigger required) above all other considerations.
 
Captain is right on for woods loads. I like Underwood and Buffalo Bore. Buffalo Bore used to produce a 230 grain load but I have not seen it stocked lately.
 
Retelling my story
https://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=568871

Oct 2014 I had not shot 10mm for 10 years, but I got some 200 gr Nosler bullets, some Power Pistol, and well supported 40sw barrel for the Glock 20.
I was going to work up super 1.3" OAL loads in the sagebrush by myself.
I had it triggering the chrono, even with the black sky.
I was going to go where no 10mm had ever gone.

It started showing pressure sign too early. I had forgotten to throat the chamber for the longer seated bullets that the 10mm magazine will feed.
I had no lathe out in the desert, so that project was a bust.

A 40sw should be able to make more power than a 10mm as strong cases trump the extra over all length.

A 40sw loaded to 10mm length should be able to trump the 40sw with standard length.

But the 40sw loaded to 10mm length, in a SAAMI 40sw chamber that some absent minded old man forgot to throat out, is not going to beat even a 10mm. That is because the bullet gets so jammed into the lands that the start pressure goes way up, causing a delay, which makes the peak pressure go way up. Power Pistol does not like bullets with the parking brake left on.
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I think the bottom line is "how much value do you put on the characteristics of the trigger". I think 1911 lovers like me value the 1911 trigger (essentially no trigger movement before the hammer drops, and a very light force on the trigger required) above all other considerations.
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Yes. Shooting a 1911 at 75 yards isn't much of an issue for me. With a glock trigger , I'd be better off hurling a spear using an old bra as a slingshot. My 10mm is a hunting gun, so capacity is a non issue. I need something that shoots well. As far as "hot loads", I stoke my own, and they feed, fire, extract and eject fine, so the "my Glock eats anything" statements mean nothing to me.

It boils down to what will fill YOUR needs the best.
 
Here is what I can add to the mess. Take a look here:
http://www.fusionfirearms.com/pro-series-ls

I have a Fusion Hunter LS in 10mm. A great shooter. The Long Slide 1911 length is produced in 45 acp, 40 S&W, 400 Corbon, 10mm, .357 SIG, 38 Super, 9×23 and 9mm. Just so you have a few choices. I have no issues shooting beyond 100 yards, the longer sight radius really helps me. It has a great trigger almost as good as my Dan Wesson PM1 & Thompson Contender pistol.
 
I've owned two Fusion 10mms. One was an older non-ramped barrel commander size. Good, reliable gun but not OK for hot ammo. The more recent one is a government model build, and has been well behaved.

I'd do business with them again.
 
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My G20 is strictly a hunting and woods gun for me too, and capacity definitely matters in those regards for me. Packs of hogs get pretty dern big around here.
 
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