10mm or .357 Sig

In general, what would be a better caliber to get, a 10mm or a .357 Sig?

  • 10mm

    Votes: 79 71.8%

  • .357 Sig

    Votes: 31 28.2%
  • Total voters
    110
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The .357 Sig is my carry caliber loaded with the full power loads like Federal and Sig designed. The 10 mm would be my first choice if both of my guns were not so big to carry. The chart below shows just how versatile the 10 mm is.
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10mm Auto also gets my vote.
With quality defensive ammunition, it opens up to over an inch. Speer Gold Dots do 3 layers of denim and 12" ballistic gel from a Glock 20.
 
If he reloads, the 357sig is pretty cheap to roll your own. Lots of once fired brass out there for cheap. 10mm brass...not so much.
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Huh, that's interesting. I've assumed the 10mm would be more prevalent. I don't have access to factory ammo for either around here, but I've heard a lot more about the 10 so i assumed it was more popular.
 
Looking at the chart above--what is really fascinating to me is the "honey hole" zone between 180 and 200 grs.--squeezing just over another couple hundred feet per second in velocity and you multiple your energy about 1.7 times (double was a bit optimistic).
 
For those of you who don't like the 10mm for home or range, but have one, what do you do with yours? I never thought of it as a particularly good hunting round or do you effectively hunt with it?
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Hunt with it? HECK YEAH!!
So much so I ordered a 9" Lone Wolf barrel to get the most out of it...
That's also the great thing about Glocks...interchangable barrels...
they're the AR-15 of pistols...

Basically, since Florida is heavy cover/brushy palmetto, its perfect.
Rarely ever see anything past 75 yards, and if you do,
the 10mm is pretty much a flat trajectory round out to 200 yards!
Fond of Federal Vital-Shok 180-grain JSP's :)

Now, that being said...I've had a Delta Elite.
Recoil is ouchy with those until you put a big fat Hogue wrap-around on it.
Still, I kinda want a new RIA 10mm with a big fat grip...its calling to me ;)
But make no mistake, it'll NEVER get the same amount of range time as the Glockity...
those Glocks just soak up recoil!!!
 
10mm.

I bought a G29 for HD, carry and range. Getting into reloading 10mm now which will help keeping praxis ammo for the range low ($10 for 50 rounds compared to $25 for factory ammo) and I can build my own defense rounds.

Here my current Excel reload sheet for 10mm:

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The 10mm is basically a novelty caliber at this point, but a very entertaining one! You can get it in some extremely nice 1911s in 10mm for hunting and general recreation/mass destruction.

For carry purposes, the .357 Sig has the clear advantage, but I'd rather use a 9mm for that. :)

So the 10mm wins in my book.
 
There are a minimum of 15 manufacturer's making 10mm chambered pistols at this time.

.357sig, four that I could easily find.

There are more MFR's making 10mm's now than at any other time in the history of the round.

Now if only they would listen to us and make a relatively inexpensive Carbine...
based off the Marlin Camp 9/Camp 45 perhaps...
you'd really see some interesting FPS numbers, not to mention massive sales...
because they'd be the only game in town for 10mm carbines...

And no, the Mech-Tech doesn't quite qualify...neither do the AR conversions...
but they do prove the point of the FPS gains...
 
I'd love a lever gun in 10mm--but the rimless case is apparently a problem due to headspacing off the mouth (theoretically causing issues stacked in a tubular mag as well). A re-incarnation of the 41 mag makes more sense (can't bring myself to buy an over-priced used marlin 1892). I do like that marlin camp idea and wonder if anybody has ever tried customizing one to 10mm
 
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Now if only they would listen to us and make a relatively inexpensive Carbine...
based off the Marlin Camp 9/Camp 45 perhaps...
you'd really see some interesting FPS numbers, not to mention massive sales...
because they'd be the only game in town for 10mm carbines * * *
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Yep, couldn't agree more. I've always thought the 10mm AUTO would be an excellent cartridge for a light-weight, fast-handling field carbine.

Back in the '90s, the FBI envisioned a similar role for the 10mm in their select-fire HK subguns, but it was still basically a "carbine" platform.

So, whether semiautomatic, bolt action, or lever action, I'd love to see a 16" carbine chambered in 10mm.

For some reason, I've always thought one of Ruger's 16" bolt-action "77/" carbines, or maybe even the Mini-14 design, would make an interesting platform for the 10mm.
 
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The couple of 10mm I've fired were powerful guns with a lot of ammo or reload level choices. I felt the 357SIG had more than enough oomph for me. In addition, most guns have the option of also using a 40 S&W barrel with no other changes needed (they use the same mag).

Mike
 
Now if only they would listen to us and make a relatively inexpensive Carbine...
based off the Marlin Camp 9/Camp 45 perhaps...
you'd really see some interesting FPS numbers, not to mention massive sales...
because they'd be the only game in town for 10mm carbines * * *
Yep, couldn't agree more. I've always thought the 10mm AUTO would be an excellent cartridge for a light-weight, fast-handling field carbine.

Back in the '90s, the FBI envisioned a similar role for the 10mm in their select-fire HK subguns, but it was basically a "carbine" platform.

So, whether semiautomatic, bolt action, or lever action, I'd love to see a 16" carbine chambered in 10mm.

For some reason, I've always thought one of Ruger's 16" bolt-action "77/" carbines, or maybe even the Mini-14 design, would make an interesting platform for the 10mm.
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There was a time when the 38-40 lever carbine was one of the most popular guns of the old west frontier/cowboy days.
 
There was a time when the 38-40 lever carbine was one of the most popular guns of the old west frontier/cowboy days.
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Yep. And with a 16" lever gun in 10mm, using modern 200gn (or heavier) projectiles and the current generation of propellants to push them, you'd certainly have a flat-shooting, wallop-packing, handy, all-around carbine. Would make a great "truck gun" in rural areas. :cool:
 
With all the talk of Glock G20's I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Smith & Wesson 610. I've got one with a 6" barrel. It's not exactly light or compact, but the 6" barrel gives it good velocity and a longer site radius and its heft helps reduce recoil. Plus, pull the hammer back and shoot it in single action and the trigger will break at about 2 pounds.

It also shoots 10mm and 40S&W, no barrel change required. Yes it only has 6 shots, but with moon clips I can reload as fast as I can do a mag change with a semi auto.

And the gun is an absolute tack driver.:)
 
" The big Glock 20 in this caliber was the backwoods choice of gun expert Chuck Karwan, who determined that with all 15 rounds in its pre-ban magazine and a 16th in its firing chamber, it carried more potential foot-pounds of energy on board when fully loaded than any Magnum revolver."--Masaad Ayoob
 
Yep. And with a 16" lever gun in 10mm, using modern 200gn (or heavier) projectiles and the current generation of propellants to push them, you'd certainly have a flat-shooting, wallop-packing, handy, all-around carbine. Would make a great "truck gun" in rural areas.
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Not to get too far off topic, but I've also maintained that 10mm is the perfect round for a small carbine. I would personally prefer to see the Kriss Vector CRB chambered for 10mm. With its recoil damping technology, that would make a great semi-auto platform in 10mm. Looks aside, I never saw the point of a semi-auto the Kriss Vector in .45.
 
Lone Wolf makes an AR-style carbine for the 10--I don't see how you can possibly get a lever gun (much as I would love one) to do it since it has to headspace off the case mouth and be very lightly crimped.
 
And then there are the MP5/HK94 subguns in 10mm. I know Special Weapons/Coharie did a run of these many years ago and I think the FBI and some special forces had a few of the full auto version from HK.
 
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