10MM for Woods Gun?
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HighValleyRanch
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glock 20 for my woods carry.
DT 10mm 180 grain rated around 550 foot pounds
chose this over my .357 4 inch revolver
DT 10mm 180 grain rated around 550 foot pounds
chose this over my .357 4 inch revolver
Capt Rick Hiott
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I thought about this for a long tine and went with a model 66 Taurus .357 mag, 7 shot revolver.
Nothing wrong with a 10mm,,,but the .357 mag ammo is easy to find and I like a revolver when it comes to dependability.
I do a lot of hog hunting......
Nothing wrong with a 10mm,,,but the .357 mag ammo is easy to find and I like a revolver when it comes to dependability.
I do a lot of hog hunting......
Cheapshooter
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Glock 20 sf. With 10+1 in deer season (state regulations).
Why 10+1? Because it's two more than 8+1. Why Glock? Because it goes bang every time!
Why 10+1? Because it's two more than 8+1. Why Glock? Because it goes bang every time!
I personally wouldn't buy one just for woods use, it's my take that the .45 (and even .40) is going to do just as much as a 10mm will, realistically. If you want to actually be able to shoot it without going broke the .45 makes more sense, and even more sense if you want power because you can always shoot .45 Super through it. I load up .45 Supers from my G21 that will run 250gr past 1300 fps with a comp or even at 1150 they're doable without a comp, so it's got plenty of power.
bamaranger
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yup
I've carried a G20 now as a heavy woods pistol for about a decade, the Glock 10mm replacing a Ruger B-hawk .357. As I load for it, ammo has not not been a problem.
The Glock is flatter, less sharp and protruding edges, and simply carries easier. The fixed sights are more durable than the adjustables on the B-hawk. I likely shot the B-hawk a bit better due to the SA trigger, especially at longish range. But I shoot the Glock faster and well enough up close for it to be a fair trade. I fixed a dog snap/lanyard to the grip hole on the Glock, a small but handy feature. A tumble or clumsiness, and the Glock still goes where I do. Of course the G20 wins the capacity contest hands down, not sure if that matters in a woods gun.
I'll not argue ballistics, the two (.357/10mm) are in the same league. The difference to me is the platform.
I've carried a G20 now as a heavy woods pistol for about a decade, the Glock 10mm replacing a Ruger B-hawk .357. As I load for it, ammo has not not been a problem.
The Glock is flatter, less sharp and protruding edges, and simply carries easier. The fixed sights are more durable than the adjustables on the B-hawk. I likely shot the B-hawk a bit better due to the SA trigger, especially at longish range. But I shoot the Glock faster and well enough up close for it to be a fair trade. I fixed a dog snap/lanyard to the grip hole on the Glock, a small but handy feature. A tumble or clumsiness, and the Glock still goes where I do. Of course the G20 wins the capacity contest hands down, not sure if that matters in a woods gun.
I'll not argue ballistics, the two (.357/10mm) are in the same league. The difference to me is the platform.
I've used a G20 for a long time, much preferring it to a magnum revolver. Lately I've been carrying a G23 in some places simply because it is a lot smaller, and potent enough for anything in GA. I think the G29 might even be a better option than the G20 because of size.
I'm not impressed with the 1911 style 10mm's. There have been too many durability issues and you lose the weight, price and capacity advantage over a revolver. Between a 1911 in 10mm and a revolver I'd just as soon have a revolver, save the money and have easier to find ammo with similar capacity. There are several or 7-8 shot 357 revolvers now.
If I were hunting I'd prefer a long barreled magnum revolver. The longer barrels move them into a different league power wise and the longer sight radius along with generally better triggers mean better accuracy. But for personal protection a semi is just much more compact, just as reliable, and when you compare real world bullet speeds from 3-4" magnum revolvers they are about the same.
My G20 is an inch shorter, 3/4 lb lighter and holds 2.5X more ammo than the 3" Smth 629 pictured. My Glock shoots 200 gr Double Tap at a chronographed 1300 fps. The snubby 44 mag will do good to get 1100 fps with 240 gr bullets. A bit better, but still in the same league. Now from a 6" or longer barrel the 44 could be getting 1500fps or maybe a bit more and easily outclass a 10mm. If you compare the best 357 loads from 3-4" barrels 10mm wins by a small margin, but is really too close to say one is better than the other. If you shoot 357 from 6-8" barrels, then it has a slight edge.
I'm not impressed with the 1911 style 10mm's. There have been too many durability issues and you lose the weight, price and capacity advantage over a revolver. Between a 1911 in 10mm and a revolver I'd just as soon have a revolver, save the money and have easier to find ammo with similar capacity. There are several or 7-8 shot 357 revolvers now.
If I were hunting I'd prefer a long barreled magnum revolver. The longer barrels move them into a different league power wise and the longer sight radius along with generally better triggers mean better accuracy. But for personal protection a semi is just much more compact, just as reliable, and when you compare real world bullet speeds from 3-4" magnum revolvers they are about the same.
My G20 is an inch shorter, 3/4 lb lighter and holds 2.5X more ammo than the 3" Smth 629 pictured. My Glock shoots 200 gr Double Tap at a chronographed 1300 fps. The snubby 44 mag will do good to get 1100 fps with 240 gr bullets. A bit better, but still in the same league. Now from a 6" or longer barrel the 44 could be getting 1500fps or maybe a bit more and easily outclass a 10mm. If you compare the best 357 loads from 3-4" barrels 10mm wins by a small margin, but is really too close to say one is better than the other. If you shoot 357 from 6-8" barrels, then it has a slight edge.
When you say woods gun do you intend to actually hunt with it or use it for self defense? While I have a G20 I generally carry my G26 9mm when I hit the woods around Georgia. Yes, I could encounter a black bear, but the more likely threats are man and/or dog. So, the smaller lighter 9mm just makes more sense for me. I do use a 17 round magazine with spacer and never feel under gunned in my specific environment.
Thanks all......
Mostly, it will be a self-defense pistol against man/dogs/hogs, but wanted the option to drop a deer (or hog) if we happen upon one while hiking/camping. On the Glock, I understand the advantages they offer (lighter weight, more capacity, supposedly more durable), but the truth is I just don't like GLocks. I have had two of them and both were my most inaccurate pistols to shoot. Always low and to the left, even if I drift the sights. I know, it is the way I hold it - totally agree - the frame sites awkward in my hands and I have been told "you just need to learn how to hold it". I don't want to have to re-learn how to hold a pistol - I shoot my standard carry guns (BHP and 1911's) just fine and love the way they feel/point. So if I do go this route, it will be a 1911 platform. Oh, tell me about the 45 super - is it just a matter of switching out barrels and mags? I have ZERO experience with that round.
J
Mostly, it will be a self-defense pistol against man/dogs/hogs, but wanted the option to drop a deer (or hog) if we happen upon one while hiking/camping. On the Glock, I understand the advantages they offer (lighter weight, more capacity, supposedly more durable), but the truth is I just don't like GLocks. I have had two of them and both were my most inaccurate pistols to shoot. Always low and to the left, even if I drift the sights. I know, it is the way I hold it - totally agree - the frame sites awkward in my hands and I have been told "you just need to learn how to hold it". I don't want to have to re-learn how to hold a pistol - I shoot my standard carry guns (BHP and 1911's) just fine and love the way they feel/point. So if I do go this route, it will be a 1911 platform. Oh, tell me about the 45 super - is it just a matter of switching out barrels and mags? I have ZERO experience with that round.
J
I don't spend much time in the woods, but I'd choose my Delta Elite if I thought I might need a gun. 12ga with slugs if I did need a gun.
90% of the rounds I've fired in my life have been through 1911-style pistols, and I can't shoot a revolver half as well, so I'll take my chances with nine rounds of 10mm on target, over anything else short of the 12ga.
The ballistics are impressive. I've loaded 230s to 1175fps (6"). Some .45 Auto guns need no modification, some can get away with a recoil spring change. I've made easy, but more extensive mods to my 1911, in the interest of reliability and durability.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8EXZyBc3qY
90% of the rounds I've fired in my life have been through 1911-style pistols, and I can't shoot a revolver half as well, so I'll take my chances with nine rounds of 10mm on target, over anything else short of the 12ga.
The ballistics are impressive. I've loaded 230s to 1175fps (6"). Some .45 Auto guns need no modification, some can get away with a recoil spring change. I've made easy, but more extensive mods to my 1911, in the interest of reliability and durability.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8EXZyBc3qY
jaughtman...,
For what it's worth, on 8/2 the Sportsman's Channel had Razor Dobbs' show on and its topic was his taking a large mule deer with his Dan Wesson 1911 10mm.
I don't have a 10mm so can't speak to them, but their ballistics are worthy of being a woods gun.
You can find the article on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/razordobbsalive on a post dated 8/2.
Regards,
Tony C.
For what it's worth, on 8/2 the Sportsman's Channel had Razor Dobbs' show on and its topic was his taking a large mule deer with his Dan Wesson 1911 10mm.
I don't have a 10mm so can't speak to them, but their ballistics are worthy of being a woods gun.
You can find the article on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/razordobbsalive on a post dated 8/2.
Regards,
Tony C.
22-rimfire
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I would choose the Glock 20 personally. They are just too dependable to ignore for this purpose. But I prefer either a 357 or 41 mag revolver for a defensive woods gun depending on what the potential dangers are, length of "hike", and the geographic area.
Big4Freedom
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I have the glock 20c and love it. Super accurate at 25yds without much felt recoil! I do carry in the woods some (40% of time). I found a good paddle holster that works well and balances it well (can't remember mfgr sorry). It's just a bit large to carry when I work on my land, chainsawing or whatever, but great when just walking thru it. For working, I carry something smaller like my glock 27 40sw or Sw 642 .38 special. If you go the Glock route, I highly recommend the Hogue Handall rubber grip, if your hands are large enough. It makes it so comfortable.