10mm FANS, am I missing out?

Yep, I agree that you're missing out. Chuch Karwin put it best when he stated that if he had to pick only one centerfire handgun cartridge to shoot, it would be the 10 mm.
Both the Glock 20 and 29 are great and my choice for carry, depending on circumstances, the G29 being more concealable.:D
 
Ohhh, Yes you are missing out!!

I have had most of the calibers in one form or the other but the 10mm is now my favorite. It got a terrible rap from the gun raggs and when the FBI down loaded it they almost killed it.

I can't believe these guys didn't see this round for what it is.. The BEST most versatile round you can get!!! It does it all and would be my choice if allowed only one gun. It can be used for hunting, defense and is very accurate so targets beware! The ammo for the 10mm exceeds any other caliber for its variety. From 135gr screamers to 200gr FMJ penetrators.

The only negative I can see is the grip size in the Glock 20s. The double stack mags are wide. It is not for people with small hands or people who feel the need to choke the crap out of the grip. I think the wide grip spreads the recoil better for me though. I have average to large hands and love it. Besides it holds 15rds of 10mm and gets the job done. :D

I have a Glock 20c and would sell all my other guns before letting it go. The C-models shoot with less recoil than a .40SW and is faster for follow up shots. I plan on getting a 6" barrel for hunting and having it ported.

I also see a lot more interest in this round lately and hopefully more people will recognize it as a great round and get one. That will help to bring the ammo cost down and make it cheaper to practice. I use Blazer 200gr FMJ and at least it is good ammo at a cheap price. You cannot reload them though.

If you like Glocks and want a great 10mm for a reasonable price, I would recommend the 20c. If you need concealability get a 29. Of course if you have small hands and love 1911s a Delta Elite may be more to your liking.

What ever you do, give one a try. You will like it. It's not for beginners but It is great for the experienced shooter. I also recommend letting people try one if you get a 10mm. It is hard for a caliber that took such a beating to get past the "it's obsolete" ideas that seem to be everywhere. It is gaining in popularity and will continue to do so on its own merits, if the gun raggs shut up.

I don't know of any caliber that compares!!
 
Jagster, You mentioned hunting? How long is the casing on the 10mm? In Ohio you have to have at least a 1" case, not including the bullet to hunt with it. That limits us to anything bigger than a 357 mag.

Thanks,
ChrisW
 
Why is the 10mm better than 9mm? Well, it's one bigger isn't it! :)

"The 10mm...it goes to 11"


- Gabe
 
If I'm not mistaken, the 10mm's ballistics surpass those of the 357 Mag.

And the case may be about an inch.

For whitetails, the 10mm is all you need.

Last time I checked, there are no 357 mag semi autos.

That's reason enough to go 10mm for me.
 
You may have already missed out:( The factory ammo is not to be had in the original specs. and that is what is killing the caliber.
What happened with the Bren Ten was very unfortunate and the Colt was very good The recoil is not similar to that of a 45 ACP but just as easy to handle. I have shot several but only own one and it is about the most fun that you can have with your clothes on!
 
HankL,

The late lamented Norma ammo sucked... the quality control was BS and it grenaded guns because of wide pressure variations.

All the ammo I listed earlier in this thread is at or beyond .357 Magnum ballistics, and Cor-Bon 200gr Penetrator @1200 FPS is the same as the infamous Norma load, only with actual quality control. It's all made RIGHT NOW by most major ammo makers.

I have a whole tackle box full of 600+ ft-lbs factory ammo... I don't get all the whining about "impossible to get" full power 10mm ammo. :rolleyes:
The people in the next lane of my local pistol range don't wonder where all the full power 10mm ammo is at! :D
 
I have my first 10mm in the air and on it's way to me.
A Novak worked S&W 1006. I have owned something in just about every caliber there is except 10mm.

I like what I read about versatility and the fact that it is a flat shooter. IF I take a handgun deer hunting, that is the most important factor to me, I don't want to have to "hold X inches over my target and then watch the deer turn, show me his "flag" and run off. I took a whitetail once with a .45 loaded with hot handloads and although I made the kill, it was pretty messy. I held a little too high and the bullet hit the spine, shattered bone into the "gutbag". Believe me, dressing him was not fun. I found bone shards everywhere.

I love .45's but I have shot many rounds into soft targets, like wet phone books and even an old rotten cedar stump, and when I dug out the bullets only a few expanded fully. Most showed signs of starting to expand and that was it. The same tests with .357 mags expanded almost every time.

Needless to say, I'm anxious!!!
 
ChrisW,

I'm not sure what some states have for laws.

Yours might be different or just written in such a way that it excludes cartridges that are acceptable elsewhere. I'm not sure what the case length is and may be less than an inch. The 10mm is ballisticaly superior to the .357magnum, with the right ammo!!

Some states are concerned about the rounds not being powerful enough. I wonder if the game in your area might be why also. If you have larger game they might push for more powerful cartridges.

You know laws are written by people who don't know anything about hunting right? They don't know much about anything and that never stopped them from passing more laws.

I think the .357mag might be near the minimum here also, but I know the 10mm is allowed so it must be figured differently. Maybe they use actual ballistic data. I'm not sure.

Here in N.Y. you can use a 10mm and several other handgun loads. Our whitetail weights range from 140# to about 220# in the Adirondacks. Some get larger but the 10mm work well on most all deer.

Black Bear can push 450# or more but over 400# is a large one around here. Might want the .44magnum for bear. I want it dead before it gets a chance to kill me.

The 10mm is at least as effective as a .357magnum and has more range.

Desert Eagle makes a .357magnum auto loader but it is large.

I have a Desert Eagle in .44magnum that shoots great. It is big and heavy and if you miss you can throw it at them. Just kidding, but it is quite large.

As you can tell I'm not big on revolvers, I like them but I love my autos. Would like to get one someday.

I am looking forward to getting a deer with my G20c this fall.

I was injured at work a little over a year ago and I am somewhat disabled now. A light powerful handgun is just the ticket for me. It also makes hunting in thick brush easier. The bucks around here find the thick stuff quick after opening day and you need to get into the thick stuff to find them.

It wasn't easy carrying my slug gun in the brush before and now would be very difficult. A handgun and holster can free up your hands and makes for good traveling in brush.
 
Most stae's hunting regs are looking for at least 500 fpe at 100 yards.

And the 10mm is the only pistol caliber that will deliver that energy in a semi auto and a revolver platform.

To that end, this Friday, I'll be picking up a S&W 610 revolver in 10mm with a 6.5 inch barrel. and it also shoots 40SW right out the box. And it will handle the hottest loads I can work up. It was designed on a N-frame for the 44 mag so it's plenty strong. A good deer or hog gun.

So I'm sold on 10mm, I've get the best semi auto and revolver in the industry.

I never had this much fun with 9mm or 45 ACP.

From 135 grain flatpoints to 220 grain flatpoints, the 10 can be a great target gun, self defense gun, or a hunting gun.

I'm stoked. I hope I'm not sick and can't go to work on Friday. ;)
 
...that is if you want to pull the trigger, the 1006 makes you have a mag in. I suppose that's a good safety feature. You cannot chamber a round and shoot it without a mag in.

Any other pistols work that way?

Tony
 
CastleBravo, I did not know about the Norma QC problems. I have shot several thousand rounds through a Colt DE "race gun" with no ill effects to the gun or myself. I still have quite a bit of this ammo on hand and I am wondering if I should get rid of it before something bad happens. As I recall, I bought this ammo for around 12 bucks a box in case quantity . The gun groups
very well and functions perfectly. I suppose that what I should have said was that the FBI's calling for a milder load and the subsequent following by the ammo mfgrs. put a bad taste in the mouth of gun purchasers both public and private. I will gladly pay $20 a box for good ammo from CorBon when the time comes if it burns as clean as the Norma. I have never been able to find anything in any caliber that was as clean as the Norma 10mm.

BEST REGARDS
 
Back in the early 90's I had a S&W 645 which is on the same frame as the 1006. It had a pretty gritty and creepy trigger and a flat backstrap. It always pointed low for me. It was a nice gun but those factors kept me from shooting it well. I have always regretted selling it. I should have had at least a trigger job done on it. A 10mm in the same frame with a fantastic trigger, and an overall reliability workover, night sights should be pretty sweet. I should have it by the weekend :D

I'm going ammo shopping tomorrow and I'll probably get a few boxes of various stuff. Including some Silvertips for the "2 legged varmints". Any other recommendations? I'll probably end up handloading for deer unless someone can tell me a good factory deer load. I think Washington has the 500 fpe at 100 rule.
 
HankL,

The 10mm Norma loads met the claimed ballistics but had wide pressure variations; this was reported in the FBI's test of the round (where it was 100% successful in all tests BTW). If I can find the article where I read that I'll post it here.

The GOOD thing about 10mm Auto is that the brass is really, really strong so it's not hard to believe that your Delta Elite held up just fine. People have made 220gr@1300 FPS handloads and not seen any signs of overpressure... not that I'd recommend that. :eek:

"Originally, NORMA loaded their 200gr.(grain) bullet at 1200fps (feet per second) and the 170gr. bullet at 1400fps. The original loads are very powerful, and I have chronographed the 170gr. bullet with velocities between 1335 to 1360fps from my S&W 610 5" barrel. I have heard and it seems confirmed that the early NORMA 10mm cartridges were not loaded too carefully."

http://marina.fortunecity.com/harbour/347/10mm01.html
 
I`d imagine the Corbon 180gr.JSP Penetrators would make a good deer load. They`re loaded to about 1320fps so they`re well over 500fpe,in fact they`re about 600fpe. They`re plenty of fun in my 10mm Witness. :) Marcus
 
Got the 1006. It's real nice. Novak's can sure do a trigger job on these. Great, smooth double action. Not too light, not too stiff. The single action is absolutely fantastic. The best I've ever felt on an auto. No creep, nice and light and a surprise break.

Next step......shooting it.

One of the best trades I've made.
 
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