10mm - Any Good Ones?
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Robert the41MagFan
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There is this one.....
Smith & Wesson 610 Classic Hunter
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Smith & Wesson 610 Classic Hunter
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George Hill
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Moving to handguns.
George Hill
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Dennis - what just happened here?
GgnubrKihn
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Glock G20. Can't go wrong with a Glock.
ohen cepel
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I think the Glock 20 is the best way to go. I've wanted a 10mm for years and recently got the Glock. Ordered the extended barrel and it is slick.
The 20 was designed from the beginning to be a 10mm rather than a .45, which is an advantage.
The S&W's are nice and pretty cheap now. I think the Witness's are good guns but I don't think they are as good as the Glock.
I also love the 16rds I have.
If the unsupported chamber gives you heartache then order an aftermarket barrel (one which will also handle lead would be good).
It's a great round anyway you go.
Good luck with it.
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The 20 was designed from the beginning to be a 10mm rather than a .45, which is an advantage.
The S&W's are nice and pretty cheap now. I think the Witness's are good guns but I don't think they are as good as the Glock.
I also love the 16rds I have.
If the unsupported chamber gives you heartache then order an aftermarket barrel (one which will also handle lead would be good).
It's a great round anyway you go.
Good luck with it.
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I have a G20 and a Colt Delta Elite. Both are very accurate out of the box.
I didn't notice any excesive case bulging with my G20's factory barrel. I bought a Jarvis barrel so I could shoot cast bullets
tho I have found they don't feed well so I stick to jacketed bullet in my Glocks.
The Jarvis barrel seems to offer a little more support then the factory Glock barrel but I probably didn't need it. I have seen some G20s that will produce seriously bulged cases. My Glock 27 has a similar effect on its brass. Only a problem if you reload.
I haven't noticed any propblem with case bulging with my Delta Elite.
I think the 10mm is a great cartridge. Load it to 40sw velocities and you make major with low pressure and can use large primers. If you want to experiment you can load much hotter tho I wouldn't unless I was hunting. I have found in pinshoots that the major loads (FBI lite+) knock the pins off the table well and are MUCH more controlable then full bore handloads.
I didn't notice any excesive case bulging with my G20's factory barrel. I bought a Jarvis barrel so I could shoot cast bullets
tho I have found they don't feed well so I stick to jacketed bullet in my Glocks.
The Jarvis barrel seems to offer a little more support then the factory Glock barrel but I probably didn't need it. I have seen some G20s that will produce seriously bulged cases. My Glock 27 has a similar effect on its brass. Only a problem if you reload.
I haven't noticed any propblem with case bulging with my Delta Elite.
I think the 10mm is a great cartridge. Load it to 40sw velocities and you make major with low pressure and can use large primers. If you want to experiment you can load much hotter tho I wouldn't unless I was hunting. I have found in pinshoots that the major loads (FBI lite+) knock the pins off the table well and are MUCH more controlable then full bore handloads.
CassandraComplex
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The "mm" Glocks are designed well for the caliber it holds, whereas the "caliber" Glocks are byproducts and tend to have a few more problems (although I have never seem a problem with any of them in many years)
The 9mm Glocks are legendary for being tough and long lived.
The 10mm Glocks were specifically designed for the 10mm and later reamed out for the .45.
In other words, you are very safe with a 10mm Glock. The chamber is as well supported as a 9mm Glock and there are very few problems with either one. The barrel and chamber are extremely thick and tough. There is a lot of steel and support there, unlike the .40 and .45 caliber Glocks which are reamed out for the larger diameter.
10mm brass is also tougher than any other on the market, and also, it takes a lot of "juice" (powder and energy/velocity) to load 10mm to it's max pressure potential. It is very rare, even reloading, that you will ever encounter a 10mm load that is loaded to max pressure. No one loads 10mm as hot as it can really go, not factory ammo makers, and not most reloaders. It can go REALLY hot before it exceeds it's limits. I don't think you would ever have a problem with a 10mm Glock in that regard.
The 9mm Glocks are legendary for being tough and long lived.
The 10mm Glocks were specifically designed for the 10mm and later reamed out for the .45.
In other words, you are very safe with a 10mm Glock. The chamber is as well supported as a 9mm Glock and there are very few problems with either one. The barrel and chamber are extremely thick and tough. There is a lot of steel and support there, unlike the .40 and .45 caliber Glocks which are reamed out for the larger diameter.
10mm brass is also tougher than any other on the market, and also, it takes a lot of "juice" (powder and energy/velocity) to load 10mm to it's max pressure potential. It is very rare, even reloading, that you will ever encounter a 10mm load that is loaded to max pressure. No one loads 10mm as hot as it can really go, not factory ammo makers, and not most reloaders. It can go REALLY hot before it exceeds it's limits. I don't think you would ever have a problem with a 10mm Glock in that regard.
Art Eatman
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In the earliest days of the Delta Elite, loading data was a bit--shall we say?--"optimistic". I loaded up a couple of hundred rounds and had bunches of bulged brass.
Some of it was the brass, and the problem has been cured by the manufacturer and I'll say no more. Some of it was optimism about how much of that particular powder could be used. I never had a case blow out on me.
Since then, data and components have settled down. I've had fun with light loads, where I had to use a cut-down single spring; I have no problems controlling full-house social loads.
I'm in accord with NVCDL about using less than max loads; just because you can control a certain level of recoil does not mean that you should become a practicing masochist.
, Art
Some of it was the brass, and the problem has been cured by the manufacturer and I'll say no more. Some of it was optimism about how much of that particular powder could be used. I never had a case blow out on me.
Since then, data and components have settled down. I've had fun with light loads, where I had to use a cut-down single spring; I have no problems controlling full-house social loads.
I'm in accord with NVCDL about using less than max loads; just because you can control a certain level of recoil does not mean that you should become a practicing masochist.
, ArtPeter M. Eick
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Get an EAA witness 10mm. Accurate, cheap and built like a tank. Besides, mine has a great trigger.
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hksigwalther
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Springfield Omega.
I have measured the case support in a Glock 20 and it is cutout .250" while the web of a 10mm case is only .180" thick which leaves .070" of unsupported case. Quite allot of unsupported case for 37,500psi.
I sent a list of pistol's case support measurements to Bill Jarvis and he said,"you will find all our barrels with greater case
support than the factory barrels. you will experience no case bulging.
jarvis,inc."
At Barsto Irving O. Stone III said,"...,
Bar-Sto barrels have a lot more case support than the stock glock barrels
on everything except the glock 20 10mm. Ours is a little better, but
theirs is really normally better than the dimension you give..."
I am suspicious that not all Glock 20s have the same chamber support.
I sent a list of pistol's case support measurements to Bill Jarvis and he said,"you will find all our barrels with greater case
support than the factory barrels. you will experience no case bulging.
jarvis,inc."
At Barsto Irving O. Stone III said,"...,
Bar-Sto barrels have a lot more case support than the stock glock barrels
on everything except the glock 20 10mm. Ours is a little better, but
theirs is really normally better than the dimension you give..."
I am suspicious that not all Glock 20s have the same chamber support.