10 Mm That Much Advantage Over 40 Sw.

Doubletap's 200 grain hardcast semi-wadcutters are not coming apart at 10mm velocities and I doubt any of the other heavier rounds are either.

The 10 is not for everyone. To be honest rounds such as the 45, 40, and even 9mm are going to get the job done on humans about as well as any handgun round will.

I like my G 20 as my outdoors hiking gun where there is the possibility of 2 or 4 legged predators. With the best loads I have a 357 mag equivilent gun that is lighter, smaller, more accurate in rapid fire, softer recoiling and holds 16 rounds vs 6. The 10 is a niche gun, but it fills a niche in my needs.
 
10 Mm That Much Advantage Over 40 Sw.
Is the cost of up grading to 10 mm worth it .if you already have a 40 sw.
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Glock 29 has been my favorite CCW for about the last eight years. Great pistol! I have been trying to find something that I like better for all of those eight years, including other pistols in 10mm, and have not found one that I like better, yet; and I have bought, sold, traded a number in the last eight years. Eleven rounds of 600 - 700 ft/lbs in commercial ammo, not even considering hand loading.

I do like other 10mm pistols. Colt Delta Elite is a really nice 10mm in a 1911 platform. I am familiar with the "original"; however, the latest release looks almost identical to the "original". Little bigger and heavier not as comfortable CC compared to the G29; at least for me, although 1911 Government can be carried CCW, again not as comfortably for me, but do on occasion.

Fusion makes some beautiful 10mm 1911s, these I have yet to try/buy. One of these is right up at the top of my next list.

Dan Wessons in 10mm look really good. Playboypequin has done reviews on these.

Lots more made by different manufacturers out there.

Finding ammo and reloading components can be a bit trickier. They exist, at a higher price, and at a scarcer rate. Most people can not just wander down to their local gun shop and pick up a bunch of 10mm ammo and/or brass. I know that I have not ever been able to. A couple of boxes, and ordered brass is pretty typical for me.

Is it worth it? I think so. Apparently so do a lot of others, as the cartridge is still alive and kicking! (With more guns and choices of ammo than a decade ago.) But, not so many that it is now taking up huge amounts of space on ammo shelves in gun shops.

Pretty close to a .41mag in a semi-auto, especially with hand loading. Can be very accurate, flat shooting, really not that bad recoil, high cap mags availiable (A G20 15 round mag works in a G29) with the ability to move pretty big bullets 200 grain along at some pretty impressive speeds. What is not to like?

If you want cheaper and less recoil, shoot a .22lr. I normally shoot five different hand gun cartridges and my favorites are the .22lr and the 10mm.

I can't directly compare a 10 to a 40. I have only had one .40 and did not like it; why bother when I had 10mm?
 
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Is the cost of up grading to 10 mm worth it .if you already have a 40 sw.



Yes, but that's just my 2 cents. I like the G23 and will keep it, but the 10mm does fill that open spot. And it's just plain fun.
 
B.N Real
Thirty percent more power.

Does it recoil thirty percent more?

Or do you 10 mm owners find shooting your 10mm handguns ,not that bad.
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I don't know how the recoil feels in the 1911 frame or the Witness. I've never tried those pistols in 10mm, but it's fine in the Glocks due to the width of the grip that spreads the recoil out across more of your hand. Perhaps the minute flex of the polymer frame takes some of the sting out also.

My 2nd generation G20 did require an aftermarket barrel to allow me to reuse the brass. I followed it up with a 3rd gen G29 that didn't wreck the brass so much, so I kept that stock barrel in place. I don't know if the chamber specs are tighter in that one, or it's just that the shorter barrel releases the pressure fast enough to stop the deformation from occurring.
 
I don't know if the chamber specs are tighter in that one, or it's just that the shorter barrel releases the pressure fast enough to stop the deformation from occurring.
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My 3rd Gen G29 (this pistol was built in October '08) will still deform 10mm brass, but I would say that it's less than previous generations. I think there might also be something to the theory you put forth about barrel length.

All I know is that I've had plenty of once-fired Glock'd up 10mm brass in my possession and though my G29 simply doesn't do it as much, it does still do it.

It hasn't kept me from reloading this brass. And my loads are not nuclear and are under max loads. But they are NOT weak, watered down wimp loads, like Federal Hydra-Shock 10mm. When I let off a round powered by Blue Dot, you damn well know about it! :eek: :D
 
It is like compairing a 357 to a 41 Mag.
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^ Probably the best analogy I've heard yet.^

My stock G20SF caused brass bulging as well. I ordered an EFK National Match barrel and they bulge no more. I can shoot lead through it too...
 
Stevie-Ray


Now, my choice for personal defense is Colt Delta Elite in 10mm auto.
That's a pretty nice choice
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Another CDE owner, for over 20 years.
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My Delta Elite is DE085xx, don't know when it was made but I got one as soon as I could. I'm guessing in 1987 or 1988.

I have shot over 5,000 rounds through both the Glock 20 and the Colt Delta Elite (much more through the Colt). They are both reliable.

Comparing the Glock to the Colt; I find the Colt to be more accurate, to have a better trigger, and I can shoot it faster with the same level of accuracy.

They are both great guns for law enforcement duty (carried the Glock on duty for 5 years) or self-defense (carried for about 20). The department did not like 1911 carried cocked and locked.
 
This thread stayed with pistols, however, in a 50 oz revolver the recoil is not bad, like some .357 ammo. It is accurate and when one switches to 180 gr .40S&W the point of aim remains the same.
The revolver gives a lot of options from hunting to SD to plinking with all the
different loadings available.
Concealing on ones person may be more difficult, though, if in a vehicle of some sort it is not hard.
 
Oh yeah,

We got to finally try the 6" barrel in the g-20 last week. Not scientific, I know, but a guy with the 4" 44mag was seriously annoyed that I was knocking as much c**p out of the steel gongs as he was. And when his slow six rounds were over, I rapid fired the rest in my magazine into the mid-range gong (15yds). If you want the thing for sd/hd, I don't recommend it. If you want to hunt pig, or just be a jerk at the range:D, I think it's worth it.
 
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"I like my G 20 as my outdoors hiking gun where there is the possibility of 2 or 4 legged predators. With the best loads I have a 357 mag equivilent gun that is lighter, smaller, more accurate in rapid fire, softer recoiling and holds 16 rounds vs 6. The 10 is a niche gun, but it fills a niche in my needs.


--What 2 legged predators are you concerned about, since you already said 9mm will be fine for humans.

After reading the thread on defense against bears, and the guy who LIVES in Alaska saying he carries a 10mm, I will one day buy one.
 
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