10 College Students at a party, 2 Masked Gunmen Burst In
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Deaf Smith
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The fact that they broke into a appartment with people present, had guns drawn, and talked about how many bullets they had, is enough to do anything, even a banzi change, to try to stop them.
The student did well. In fact, I'd give him a medal!
Hate the woman was shot (and I hope she makes a 100 percent recovery.)
The one that got away needs to be caught and changed with murder (they started it and thus it's all on their head.)
The student did well. In fact, I'd give him a medal!
Hate the woman was shot (and I hope she makes a 100 percent recovery.)
The one that got away needs to be caught and changed with murder (they started it and thus it's all on their head.)
Reno, Nv., Halloween night, 2007. Two men crashed a party. One rather big fellow picked a fight with a University of Nevada basketball player while he was dancing and beat him senseless, while the man's friend, armed with a gun, kept others at bay.
The player was relieved of his wallet in the process. When some of the young men (unarmed students) attempted to intervene, three of them were shot dead by the one who initiated the fight--- at least one student was chased down and executed with shots to the head.
Things went from party crashing, to armed robbery, to triple murder in no time flat. Don't know what the initial intent of the two assailants was.
Their car was stopped down the road as they were leaving the scene, and they were taken into custody.
Samisoni Taukitoku will spend his remaining days in prison after three murder convictions (after some how avoiding the death penalty). His partner, Saili Manu will be in prison for a while, also on somewhat lesser charges. Neither men had prior criminal records.
The ball player was dismissed from the team for violating team rules.
The player was relieved of his wallet in the process. When some of the young men (unarmed students) attempted to intervene, three of them were shot dead by the one who initiated the fight--- at least one student was chased down and executed with shots to the head.
Things went from party crashing, to armed robbery, to triple murder in no time flat. Don't know what the initial intent of the two assailants was.
Their car was stopped down the road as they were leaving the scene, and they were taken into custody.
Samisoni Taukitoku will spend his remaining days in prison after three murder convictions (after some how avoiding the death penalty). His partner, Saili Manu will be in prison for a while, also on somewhat lesser charges. Neither men had prior criminal records.
The ball player was dismissed from the team for violating team rules.
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Double Naught Spy
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NO, the GG did not cause indirect injury to the woman in the apartment if she was shot by the BG. Now if the GG shot her, that is another matter, but you can't blame him for protecting his life and the lives of others if someone is injured by the BG, especially when it became clear they intended to shoot people. That became evident here...
Blaming the GG for injuries caused by the BG is ridiculous.
Sure enough, but certainly not always.
I think you're arguing semantics here, but I won't argue your point because I know from experience that semantics win and lose battles in the court of public opinion. Especially when guns are the subject - assault weapons vs. assault rifles, anyone?
I certainly don't think I "blamed him". If he hadn't acted, she would have worse than just gunshot wounds.
BTW, I edited the original post to clarify my thoughts.
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And people question why i carry my gun to my friend's houses/apartments (I just graduated college last year).
From the info ive read, i see nothing wring with the students actions. he acted only after trying to comply with demands and saw the situation escalate to a degree in which he had good reason to fear for his life. I would like to think i could act the same way if ever put into a similar situation.
Hope the woman who was hit makes a full recovery.
From the info ive read, i see nothing wring with the students actions. he acted only after trying to comply with demands and saw the situation escalate to a degree in which he had good reason to fear for his life. I would like to think i could act the same way if ever put into a similar situation.
Hope the woman who was hit makes a full recovery.
ActivShootr
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My assesment would be to give the kid a medal.
The percentage of people with ball$ has dramatically declined over the last few years. I nominate this guy for "biggest ones of the year".
The percentage of people with ball$ has dramatically declined over the last few years. I nominate this guy for "biggest ones of the year".
It is wonderful to see our students being instructed to defend themselves and actually doing it.
I am tired of seeing our students being told to be helpless sheep.
These are the young people we hope to entrust the free world too.
This was a horror story in process that one outstanding young man stopped from happening.
As usual the chicken xxxx bad guys probably used a defenseless female as a shield.
I hope she recovers qiuckly.
I am tired of seeing our students being told to be helpless sheep.
These are the young people we hope to entrust the free world too.
This was a horror story in process that one outstanding young man stopped from happening.
As usual the chicken xxxx bad guys probably used a defenseless female as a shield.
I hope she recovers qiuckly.
The second they threaten to shoot you if you do not do what they say, and show guns that can back up their threat, from that moment on when you have what you believe is your best opportunity, blast him.
I think it is COMPLETELY unreasonable to suggest that one should somehow trust the word of such a person that you will be unharmed if you do what he says. Not only that, but you should be able to use force on him to avoid having to do what he says (even if you think he might allow you to live). Once he points that gun at you he gives up any notion that using force upon him is worse than letting him force you to do things. What I mean by that is that no one is obligated to comply with the demands, and if the threat is you will be harmed if you do not, then shooting him is completely justified as self defense.
I think he should have placed his shots better if it were his that were hitting innocent bystanders. But yeah, engaging the BGs was the right thing to do.
They were all very lucky to have that guy there.
If he was carrying instead of it being in a backpack, I wonder if he would have acted at a different time.
As soon as they started separating the men from the women I'm sure everyone knew why. I bet it was torment waiting for an opening to get his gun.
I think the most troubling moment must have been after shooting the first intruder. Obviously the other one hears it and either starts shooting the women or has a chance to prepare for the oncoming gun fight. Or, obviously, even taking a hostage.
Glad it worked out the way it did. Obviously a shame that one girl got shot, but I hope she realizes that things were going to go very badly for everyone involved.
I saw a special on tv about a similar situation. The intruders forced the male and female friends to have sex, the women to have sex with each other, and raped the women themselves. Then brought them (naked I believe) out into the snow and killed them one by one. I believe one woman survived being shot and ran through the snow for quite a while to get help. Incredibly sad story. Immediately popped into my head when I read this thread. The killers were caught and found guilty but after those kinds of crimes no legal punishment fits the bill.
If he was carrying instead of it being in a backpack, I wonder if he would have acted at a different time.
As soon as they started separating the men from the women I'm sure everyone knew why. I bet it was torment waiting for an opening to get his gun.
I think the most troubling moment must have been after shooting the first intruder. Obviously the other one hears it and either starts shooting the women or has a chance to prepare for the oncoming gun fight. Or, obviously, even taking a hostage.
Glad it worked out the way it did. Obviously a shame that one girl got shot, but I hope she realizes that things were going to go very badly for everyone involved.
I saw a special on tv about a similar situation. The intruders forced the male and female friends to have sex, the women to have sex with each other, and raped the women themselves. Then brought them (naked I believe) out into the snow and killed them one by one. I believe one woman survived being shot and ran through the snow for quite a while to get help. Incredibly sad story. Immediately popped into my head when I read this thread. The killers were caught and found guilty but after those kinds of crimes no legal punishment fits the bill.
Brian Pfleuger
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If they do it will be from the standpoint that the BGs were not really going to hurt anybody and this poor girl only got shot because of some wacko with a LEGAL gun who thinks he's Rambo and look how bad is is for people to carry guns around with them.
Wow, great the GG won for once
The report baffles me tho... the quote at least.....
Was there 3 invaders or 2?
The GG shot the guy watching, the gunman jumped out the window & ran? was he the one who was shot?
The second gunman was in a room about to do nasty things to the girls? I thought the gunman jumped out the window? Why would this gunman be about to no nasties to a girl in a small apartment just after a shot was let go in the other room? Surely he would have heard the shot and at least checked it out? (maybe he had other things on his mind?
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Oh, ok, the first gunman got shot & jumped out the window and died soon after....
Wow, scarey situation..... Good on the GG, I reckon he saved alot of lives....
Whew, +1 for the guy to be carrying, well, packing (back packing) at least
Hope the young lady gets better (fully) real soon
The report baffles me tho... the quote at least.....
Was there 3 invaders or 2?
The GG shot the guy watching, the gunman jumped out the window & ran? was he the one who was shot?
The second gunman was in a room about to do nasty things to the girls? I thought the gunman jumped out the window? Why would this gunman be about to no nasties to a girl in a small apartment just after a shot was let go in the other room? Surely he would have heard the shot and at least checked it out? (maybe he had other things on his mind?
)Oh, ok, the first gunman got shot & jumped out the window and died soon after....
Wow, scarey situation..... Good on the GG, I reckon he saved alot of lives....
Whew, +1 for the guy to be carrying, well, packing (back packing) at least
Hope the young lady gets better (fully) real soon
PhoenixConflagration
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I imagine he complied initially because either (like Jofaba said) he needed the chance to get into his backpack, or the fact that the room was full of his friends made him wait until no other option was available. I fully agree that this guy should be given a medal by the mayor (or even the governor) on the steps of city hall. People can armchair quaterback all day long, but all I can say is, "Please, let me be able to act as well as he did if it happens to me."