1-9" 223 recipes?

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chris in va

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I just like to pick stuff off at various distances with my CZ Carbine but never really tried for any real accuracy.

Cabelas has small bags of various 224 bullets so I thought it might be fun to work up some accuracy loadings. How about 4895, 69 gr and LC brass? Powder choice is somewhat limited.
 
1-9" 223 recipes?
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In my 1in9 twist Savage bolt gun, 27.2grs of IMR 4320 topped off with Sierras #1390 55gr BTHP.

Consistently shoots 5/16ths inch groups at 100 yards, as long as I do my job.

One shot drops on coyotes.

Best Regards
Bob Hunter
 
Just found this load recently.

24.0 grains of IMR-4895, under a 68 grain Hornady match HPBT bullet. COL= 2.250" . Assorted brass, Winchester primers. Brass cut to minimum standard length.

3/8" groups at 100 yards. First session with this load, put 31 rounds into the center of the bullseye, 3/8" x 7/8" ragged hole). The second time out, honest to god 3/8" groups. Several times.

Shot this load for the first time, (at longer than 100 yards), yesterday. At 200 yards, it seems to do roughly 1". (Several measured groups from yesterday : 1.21", 1.06", 0.92", 1.08", 1.11" - measured with a caliper).

At 300 yards, it still seems to do well, but I have no measured groups (shot a steel plate target with holes and "flappers", instead of paper). However, I had no trouble shooting into 2 1/2" holes, to hit the flappers and open them.

So, this load seems to be pretty darn good, in my rifle anyway.

Rifle is a Stevens 200 (Savage), 1:9 twist, 22" standard sporter barrel. Scope is a 6 - 20 X 50 AO Nitrex, set on 20X.
 
My best load thus far for my savage axis is 25.5 grains of benchmark, Sierra 55gr #1390 BTHP GameKing, Win SRP, seated to 2.26". It's about .75" at 100 and minute of clay bird at 300.

I have never been able to get my Savage 1:9 to shoot anything heavier very well.
 
How about 4895, 69 gr and LC brass?
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Will work very well, for any weight bullet of 62 grains or better I always use H-4895 but IMR-4895 will do as well. For 60 grain bullets or less, it's H-335 for me.

Good luck on your loads and stay safe.

Jim
 
69 gr Nosler Comps or Sierra MK's,As per usual,develop your load safely,but I was using Varget, when I had a 16 in bbl 1 in 9 twist.
 
If you are going out past 300 yards, yes, 69s. Inside of that, 55s or 60s will likely be better, especially with the 1:9.
 
I just shot a group today with my 1-9 twist DPMS bull 20 that was well under an inch at 100 yards using a 52 grain Sierra Matchking and 25.5 grains of H335. The Matchkings have turned in great performances in a variety of rifles....Give it a shot.
 
Alrighty, so 335, 4895 or Varget. I'll mess with the 62 grain as well. Just with standard 55gr FMJ bulk and various powders (RL-7, 4895, Varget etc) I have no problem picking off clay pigeons at 350 yards with a $50 4x scope, so the gun definitely has potential.
 
My Varget recommendation was for 69 gr bullets.
For 55 gr bullets,there are better powders.Benchmark would be one.
 
All of my .223 handloads use ball powder mostly because it works better with my equipment. AA2230, X-terminator, H335/WCC844 are my "go to" powders since I don't load heavier than 55 grain bullets and I'm happy with this burn rate.
 
"How about 4895, 69 gr and LC brass?"

That's exactly the combination I use in my Kimber Longmaster Classic with a 1:9 twist. The bullet brand is Nosler and results are outstanding.

Funny thing about my gun. It does like 50-60 grain bullets at all. No matter the bullet, powder or primer combination. Groups look like a shotgun pattern. Get to 63 grain and heavier and it becomes a one-ragged-hole rifle at 100 yards. It also likes the Nosler 40 grain ballistic tips.
 
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I only load two bullet types in .223 Remington. The 55gr hornady fmjbt and the 55gr vmax.

Both get 25.4 gr IMR 8208xbr
The fmjbt is seated at 2.200"

The vmax is seated at 2.255"

The vmax load shoots .25" - .3" groups @ 100 yards in my 16" 1in8 twist AR-15.

It has also been fired through atleast 10 different rifles and has always produced .5" groups or smaller.

Both semiautomatics and bolt guns.
 
The vmax load shoots .25" - .3" groups @ 100 yards in my 16" 1in8 twist AR-15.
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Wow. I'll check for that powder too. That wouldn't happen to be an earlier Sport would it? I have one but never worked on accuracy with it.
 
Actually yes it's a early 2012 S&W M&P Sport. It's topped with a Nikon 4x16x40 BDC scope. It's primarily used for varmint hunting.

Due to S&W changing the barrel on these in recent years, I don't plink with it anymore, just to save the barrel from wearing out.

I built another AR-15 upper specifically for plinking purposes.
 
"All of my .223 handloads use ball powder mostly because it works better with my equipment. AA2230, X-terminator, H335/WCC844 are my "go to" powders since I don't load heavier than 55 grain bullets and I'm happy with this burn rate."
And BL-C2
 
Ok one more question.

As I mentioned my scope is a fixed 4x. Would I get a better group chance if the target was at 50 yards?
 
50 yard groups wont tell you much at all about the accuracy of a load IMO. 100 yds is the minimum distance at which I will develop a load, at least to start with. I test my match AR loads with a 4X scope @100; a good target helps. I like a diamond or square shaped bull there because it's easier to see that your reticle is well centered.
 
with 55 gr Hornady soft points I use 24.3 of H335, and 27.3 of CFE223. Both are excellent out of a 20 1 in 7 barrel and a 1 in 8 16 inch barrel. Under 1" at 100 yds.
 
Ok, here are some results. I did the best I could with the 4x scope at 100 yards, not exactly a precision instrument.:rolleyes:




24/25/26gr of 4895 under a Nosler 50gr Ballistic Tip out of my 1-9" CZ 527 Carbine. Not ideal powder, not ideal scope. Still managed 5/8"!
 
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