00-Buck vs Other Loads - Possible Compromise
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TX_Pipeliner
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Mt personal preference is #4 buck, with a lesser preference for #1 buck. I don't see the need for 00 in a HD situation. At 10-20 feet, that #4 will do the job.
I've seen both #4 and 00 buck used in LE roles over the last 30 years; I believe most outfits have gone back to 00 buck because of its superior penetration through light cover, against heavily clothed opponents, etc. I agree with this thinking.
#4 would not be out of place for indoor use; I'll stick with 00 buck for for the 'house load' for several reasons. I already know how it patterns in my shotguns. I already know it works against people. I just might, at some point, need to engage a dogass before he gets in the house; or need to take the fight outside. And finally, I know for a fact that when the dance opens, the only 'penetration' I'm going to be concerned with will be through valuable components of the person(s) who made me grab a shotgun in the first place. Nobody is safe until that matter is resolved and we'll worry about patching sheetrock and replacing carpets after the smoke clears, the 'hole check' and the head count is done.
#4 would not be out of place for indoor use; I'll stick with 00 buck for for the 'house load' for several reasons. I already know how it patterns in my shotguns. I already know it works against people. I just might, at some point, need to engage a dogass before he gets in the house; or need to take the fight outside. And finally, I know for a fact that when the dance opens, the only 'penetration' I'm going to be concerned with will be through valuable components of the person(s) who made me grab a shotgun in the first place. Nobody is safe until that matter is resolved and we'll worry about patching sheetrock and replacing carpets after the smoke clears, the 'hole check' and the head count is done.
I prefer the 00 buck. But I like the #1 for the compromise I am comfortable with. The police use #4 around where I live.
My grandfather always used 0 buck or #1 buck. He used 0 buck for hunting grizzly, so if it will take down a grizzly, it will take down some hoodlum that broke into your house.
My grandfather always used 0 buck or #1 buck. He used 0 buck for hunting grizzly, so if it will take down a grizzly, it will take down some hoodlum that broke into your house.
LanceOregon
Moderator
Tex is absolutely right that Hevishot penetrates way better than lead. I would expect those .20 caliber Heavishot Buckshot to offer penetration similar to #1 Buckshot in lead.
Hevishot has introduced new Dead Coyote loads in 2 3/4 and 3 inch shells in 00 Hevishot Buckshot, for those that insist on shooting big buckshot. These loads will way outperform normal 00 Buckshot ammo in penetration.
The biggest drawback to all Hevishot ammo, though, is its high cost.
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Hevishot has introduced new Dead Coyote loads in 2 3/4 and 3 inch shells in 00 Hevishot Buckshot, for those that insist on shooting big buckshot. These loads will way outperform normal 00 Buckshot ammo in penetration.
The biggest drawback to all Hevishot ammo, though, is its high cost.
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Mike Irwin
Staff
I also prefer No. 4 buckshot.
But, I have 5 rounds of S&B 12 pellet 00 buck in a carrier on the butt.
But, I have 5 rounds of S&B 12 pellet 00 buck in a carrier on the butt.