Attn Illinois citizens: New anti gun bills headed for the house.

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Davey

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Today several anti gun bills passed committee and are on there way to the House of Representatives.

A sweeping assault weapons ban, a requirement to report stolen firearms, and turning certain offenses from misdemeanors to felonies.

http://ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocTypeID=HB&DocNum=1294&GAID=11&SessionID=84&LegID=57470

http://ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocTypeID=HB&DocNum=1599&GAID=11&SessionID=84&LegID=58750

http://ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocTypeID=HB&DocNum=1855&GAID=11&SessionID=84&LegID=59044

The assault weapons is particularly bad, perhaps the worst in the nation. All Glocks in existence become illegal.

Saddle up. You know what to do.
 
You have to give the Chi-town anti-gun faction credit for sticking to their agenda.

Illinois has multiple on going Second Amendment law suits, ultra increased focus and scrutiny due to being the last non-CCW state and they are introducing anti-gun legislation. :rolleyes:

I guess the saddest part, in my view, is that those politicians have a constituency that supports their efforts.
 
A sweeping ban on a class of weapons flies directly in the face of Heller, and this could make for a very good legal challenge.
 
Just reading the law, how do Glocks qualify?

Don't get me wrong, this thing is utterly ridiculous, I just don't see where your claim it would outlaw Glocks comes from.
 
Not the first person to bring up the glock.

I imagine the 92 could be victim, no more "MAC10" or "Micro Uzi" style pistols.


I am an Illinois Resident and I will tell you what this is kicking my butt into gear to go pick up some spare magazines. IF god forbid this thing were to pass, it could take 10 years before the SCOTUS would throw this out.


Edit: To those asking how this would effect Glocks ets

(vi) a semi-automatic version of an automatic firearm;
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http://ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocTypeID=HB&DocNum=1294&GAID=11&SessionID=84&LegID=57470

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A few lines down on page 3; TECHNICALLY the Glock 17 is the semi automatic Glock 18. You have the Beretta 93R. This would also ban things like semi automatic "pistol" versions of the MAC10, UZI, TMP etc. No doubt this is targeted at things like the UZI but the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Bottom line those of us in Illinois need to stand up and let our elected officials know this wont fly.
 
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They're trying to outlaw my INTRATEC TEC-9 again.

I bet I can get a fortune for it, I wonder if I could finance a Tanfoglio Gold Match with the proceeds... :)
 
This provision of the bill covers a lot:

a semi-automatic version of an automatic firearm;
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So if a manufactuer has ever created a full-auto version of a firearm - the semi-auto version would be banned, and I am guessing that any versions of the firearm by differen tmanufacturers in different calibers would also be banned.

But this one provision that could get some Glocks. At the very least it would get Glock 17s because of the Glock 18.

This bill would also either outlaw 11+ round magazines or weapons capable of accepting 11+ round magazines (not clear to me which - or both).

These bills would also outlaw any shotgun with a pistol grip :rolleyes:

I saw video of a guy who held up a dry cleaner a few weeks ago on the South side with a shotgun, surprisingly the lack of a pistol grip didn't lessen it's effectiveness as a stick-up gun.
 
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I don't want to go to far off the reservation here, but do any of our Illinois members know of a major crime committed in IL with in which a .50 BMG chambered rifle was involved?

For that matter does anyone, anywhere know of such an incident taking place within the USA?
 
A few lines down on page 3; TECHNICALLY the Glock 17 is the semi automatic Glock 18.
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Gotcha. I was looking for something inherent in all Glocks that would get them banned, wasn't thinking about a specific model. Makes sense now.
 
This bill would also either outlaw 11+ round magazines or weapons capable of accepting 11+ round magazines (not clear to me which - or both).
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It outlaws "large capacity ammunition feeding devices", this is the magazines themselves. The weapon is banned ONLY if the magazine is fixed. 10 round limit for semi-auto pistols and rifles, 5 round limit on semi-auto shotguns, and no removeable mags for shotguns.

These bills would also outlaw any shotgun with a pistol grip
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Not any shotgun, semi-auto shotguns only.
 
Like we all knew, the .50 BMG is being targeted(pun intended:)) because it 'looks' and 'sounds' scary and is potentially dangerous. No logic, or reason behind it, but of course, logic and reason never phased an anti-gunner.

I just read the whole sickening text of the proposed legislation. I notice that its a requirement that those weapons and magazine owners covered in the bill, have to notify the State Police with in 90 days of the passage of the bill that they own them. Wouldn't that de facto registration?
 
When they say "any .50 cal rifle" I hope that does not mean my .50 cal black powder rifle because let me tell you, if someone breaks into my house that's the first gun i am grabbing, especial if they bring friends (sarcasm).

And Davey when you say you know what to do, heh sorry but I don't, I just started paying attention to all this non-scene.
 
No it only applies to .50 BMG rifles.

18 U.S.C. Section 921 (a)(16).

8 (4) ".50 caliber rifle" means a centerfire rifle

9 capable of firing a .50 caliber cartridge. The term does

10 not include any antique firearm as defined in 18 U.S.C.

11 Section 921 (a)(16), any shotgun including a shotgun that

12 has a rifle barrel, or a muzzle-loader used for "black

13 powder" hunting or battle re-enactments.

14 (5) ".50 caliber cartridge" means a cartridge in .50

15 BMG caliber, either by designation or actual measurement,

16 that is capable of being fired from a centerfire rifle. The

17 term ".50 caliber cartridge" does not include any

18 memorabilia or display item that is filled with a permanent

19 inert substance or that is otherwise permanently altered in

20 a manner that prevents ready modification for use as live

21 ammunition or shotgun ammunition with a caliber

22 measurement that is equal to or greater than .50 caliber.

Full Text of HB1294
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When they say "any .50 cal rifle" I hope that does not mean my .50 cal black powder rifle because let me tell you, if someone breaks into my house that's the first gun i am grabbing, especial if they bring friends (sarcasm).
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I know this was sarcasm, but that actually don't mean your black powder rifle:

8 (4) ".50 caliber rifle" means a centerfire rifle
9 capable of firing a .50 caliber cartridge. The term does
10 not include any antique firearm as defined in 18 U.S.C.
11 Section 921 (a)(16), any shotgun including a shotgun that
12 has a rifle barrel, or a muzzle-loader used for "black
13 powder" hunting or battle re-enactments.

Edit: hmm, it says the muzzle-loader has to be used for black powder hunting. I guess if you don't hunt with it, it would be banned? :rolleyes:
 
Count, better get that Tanfoglio soon - based on the CZ-75, and the full auto CZ-75 pistol is still in production in the Czech Republic.

What a crock. Maybe this will be the straw that breaks the camel's back in IL.
 
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