I believe that Zogby is working for the Gore campaign. Here is the URL:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2000/11/6/184917.shtml
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2000/11/6/184917.shtml
Zogby Predicts Gore Victory ++Bush Out++
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John Marshall
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Zogby can go p**s up a rope.
The Battleground Poll shows Bush - 46, Gore - 37.
Gallup has it Bush - 47, Gore - 45.
Rasmussen says it's Bush - 48, Gore - 41.
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The Battleground Poll shows Bush - 46, Gore - 37.
Gallup has it Bush - 47, Gore - 45.
Rasmussen says it's Bush - 48, Gore - 41.
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David Roberson
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Zogby does polls commissioned by the Democrats. I can't imagine why anyone would give them any credibility.
Bartholomew Roberts
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Actually, I disagree - Zogby polls are traditionally non-partisan and usually lean to the conservatives if they lean at all.
One thing you need to remember is that the Zogby poll is a rolling three-day sample of only 400 voters. With the small smalple, it is possible to have a much greater margin or error.
Battleground and PoA both use sample 1,000 voters a day and PoA combines that into a rolling 3-day sample of 3,000 voters.
The thing to remember here is that all these polls are saying the same thing - namely that Bush leads in electoral votes and that Gore MUST win all three of the big electoral vote states of Florida, Pennsylvania, and Michigan to have a realistic chance to win.
All three of those states are top ten in terms of number of gunowners. We stand a good chance of not only stopping Gore; but letting the Republicans know who was responsible for it. Turnout will decide the issue so it is up to us to stay motivated and to get everyone we can out there to vote.
Tim Russert does an analysis of the MSNBC/Reuters/Zogby polling data here: http://www.msnbc.com/news/337140.asp
One thing you need to remember is that the Zogby poll is a rolling three-day sample of only 400 voters. With the small smalple, it is possible to have a much greater margin or error.
Battleground and PoA both use sample 1,000 voters a day and PoA combines that into a rolling 3-day sample of 3,000 voters.
The thing to remember here is that all these polls are saying the same thing - namely that Bush leads in electoral votes and that Gore MUST win all three of the big electoral vote states of Florida, Pennsylvania, and Michigan to have a realistic chance to win.
All three of those states are top ten in terms of number of gunowners. We stand a good chance of not only stopping Gore; but letting the Republicans know who was responsible for it. Turnout will decide the issue so it is up to us to stay motivated and to get everyone we can out there to vote.
Tim Russert does an analysis of the MSNBC/Reuters/Zogby polling data here: http://www.msnbc.com/news/337140.asp
Zogby traditionally is quite accurate. His is by feathers a democrat but has done polling for both sides. Remember, media sponsored polls are shallow and inaccurate. The same firms do indepth polling where the really good stuff is discovered. These guy would not be in business after a campaign in which they fed the politicians bad information. What you have to remember is the sponsoring agency does influence the poll. Big media has a vested interest in a horse race.
Zogby recently has changed career paths and is moving toward commentator or analyst. That may help goose the numbers.
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Zogby recently has changed career paths and is moving toward commentator or analyst. That may help goose the numbers.
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"Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; it is force! Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."
-George Washington.
TexasRusty
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I do not believe Zogby is correct. The other night Ed Goez(sp) of the battle ground poll was on CNN. They asked him about the Zogby poll. He said that Zogby recently changed the way he conducts his polls. Zogby now polls during daytime and on weekends. Both methods which are notoriously unreliable and show a high degree of demcratic bias.
Zogby has read his press and belives it. He has sold out.
Zogby has read his press and belives it. He has sold out.
Statistics give me head aches and make me want to drink coffee and have many Krispy Kremes. 
One thing I know for sure is that polling companies are constantly being tested in real world environments. The last major test for them was the primaries. Rasmussen (Portrait of America) came out way ahead during that test. Zogby came in a distant third.
Battlegrround's Final Poll also has Bush winning but at 50%, Bore at 45% and Nader at %3.5. Their results are based on analysis of all available data. They're not commenting on the Electoral College.
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One thing I know for sure is that polling companies are constantly being tested in real world environments. The last major test for them was the primaries. Rasmussen (Portrait of America) came out way ahead during that test. Zogby came in a distant third.Battlegrround's Final Poll also has Bush winning but at 50%, Bore at 45% and Nader at %3.5. Their results are based on analysis of all available data. They're not commenting on the Electoral College.
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