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Longshot

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Time to light a fire under your congresscritters:
http://chblue.com/a/ap.washington/20000730/39844f23.22e8.2/ap.asp

Use the automailer at http://www.keepandbeararms.org to tell them how you feel about this waste of tax money.


Clinton Continues Gun Buyback Plan

Jul 30, 2000 11:52 AM


WASHINGTON (AP) - The government will continue to offer federal money for local gun buyback programs, President Clinton announced Sunday, rejecting the contention by House Republicans that current law does not authorize such spending.

The $15 million ``Buyback America'' program ``will ensure the removal of thousands more guns, preventing an untold number of gun accidents suicides and crimes,'' Clinton said in a statement.

He said the Department of Housing and Urban Development has ``clear authority to carry out this important program'' and that ``the gun lobby and other opponents of common-sense gun safety measures continue to challenge this initiative.''

Programs in at least 30 cities are on hold because of the dispute between the Department of Housing and Urban Development and Rep. James T. Walsh, R-N.Y. chairman of the House appropriations subcommittee that oversees HUD.

Walsh maintains that existing law did not authorize such spending, and that Congress' investigative arm, the General Accounting Office, supports his position.

He told The New York Times that if the buyback program continued, housing officials could be fined or even jailed. But he said he may not seek such penalties.

So far, the 10-month-old program has paid out $3.5 million to buy back more than 17,000 guns in 70 cities. HUD suggests a buyback price of $50 per gun, and local businesses are encouraged to donate gift certificates for food, toys and other goods to individuals who turn in weapons.

``Buyback America saves lives by taking unwanted guns out of circulation,'' HUD Secretary Andrew Cuomo said.

The National Rifle Association and gun control opponents in Congress attacked the program as wasteful and potentially dangerous because it could put cash into criminals' pockets.

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Thanks for the alert, Longshot. Bill Clinton does, pretty much, what he wants to, so we may as well grab all the junk guns we can and cash in on the deal.

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Alexander Solzhenitzyn:
"Freedom is given to the human conditionally, in the assumption of his constant religious responsibility."
 
>``will ensure the removal of thousands more guns, preventing an untold number of gun accidents suicides and crimes,'' Clinton said in a statement.
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"Untold number"!

O/K., I'll *tell* the number, 0.00 = Zero = nuttin =

Now it's a "told" number. So there. :p

Bentley

"Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters."
-- Albert Einstein - (1954)


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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Longshot:

The National Rifle Association and gun control opponents in Congress attacked the program as wasteful and potentially dangerous because it could put cash into criminals' pockets.
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I can't believe the NRA said this! Read my letter below to understand why, and feel free to copy and modify it to send to your own Rep's:

Dear Honorable Senators and Congresspersons,

It has come to my attention that President Clinton has authorized 15 million of my tax dollars for gun buyback programs.

Staying true to his usual style of exercising executive orders and anything that resembles them, he has bypassed both Congressional Houses and surreptitiously engineered this program via the Department of Housing and Urban Development.

Gun buybacks are purely feel-good political hay. They do not reduce crime. Criminals are the last people to attend them, as personal information is gathered at the buybacks. Stolen guns are not turned in, as the person who presents a stolen weapon would be arrested.

What does get turned in? Worthless guns, and unused working guns that could easily be turned in to a local police station without the offering of a federal $50 bribe.

Lest I forget, I would like to mention that a favorite trick these days is to purchase a 15 to 25 dollar pellet or BB gun and turn it in for the bounty, doubling one's money in the process.

I would like to urge all of you to oppose and stop this ridiculous waste of tax money. If private citizens want to responsibly dispose of firearms, the local police are always happy to assist them. We don't need the President forcing this absurd program on us in an effort to ensure his "legacy".

Thank you for your time and service,

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NRA/GOA/SAF/USMC

Oregon residents please support the Oregon Firearms Federation, our only "No compromise" gun lobby. http://www.oregonfirearms.org

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I would like to start a "Private Gun Buy Back Program" I will give anyone $50each (CASH) for their gun(s) if I think it is worth it.

Wonder how that would float. I mean I am just getting guns off the street right? Like "they" want!


<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>.......Criminals are the last people to attend them, as personal information is gathered at the buybacks. Stolen guns are not turned in, as the person who presents a stolen weapon would be arrested.....[/quote]

That is NOT true, they are NO questions asked, so someone who commited a murder with a firearm could, INDEED may, turn it in via this program and that evidence is for all purposes destroyed. It can NOT be used as evidence in a trial should it be discovered that it was turned in at a "Gun Buy Back Program". Also, if a stolen gun was turned in it would be destroyed, instead of returned to the rightful owner.

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-AoW[t]-Dead [Black Ops]

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Oh yes, A private gun buy-back program. Now that is a brilliant idea and I'll do the "gubmit" one better.


I will purchase any of your guns for $51.00, with the following conditions:

1. I must first inspect the gun, and determine if the gun would be better off in my collection, rather than in your hands.

2. You must also provide me with a junk gun to sell to the "gubmit".

This way, you'll get rid of your guns and help me out at the same time. I know you'll support my idea. Thank you for understanding, and compassion. Now turn off your computer and clean out that gunsafe! I've got guns to buy.

My brain never stops working.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dead:
That is NOT true, they are NO questions asked, so someone who commited a murder with a firearm could, INDEED may, turn it in via this program and that evidence is for all purposes destroyed. It can NOT be used as evidence in a trial should it be discovered that it was turned in at a "Gun Buy Back Program". Also, if a stolen gun was turned in it would be destroyed, instead of returned to the rightful owner.
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Dead,

The gun buybacks I have checked out do indeed make a record of who is turning in the guns. Perhaps you have seen a different style of buyback in a different state. Also, not all gun buybacks are federally funded. Some are funded by gift certificates from local business owners.

Regardless of the minutia of difference that sets one buyback apart from another, I don't want my tax dollars spent on it. This is not the role of government. I hope we can agree on that.

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NRA/GOA/SAF/USMC

Oregon residents please support the Oregon Firearms Federation, our only "No compromise" gun lobby. http://www.oregonfirearms.org
 
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