Your Shooting is Off Because

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Jim567

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I have seen a one page sheet of paper posted here , there and at ranges.
It states about ten reasons folks are not punching holes in paper correctly.
Range masters are quoting it.
None of the reasons listed, say your sights need adjusting.
Only human error causes misses or bad groups!!
Had an experience at the range today -
Shooting my Sig M11 A1
Story to follow.
 
None of the reasons listed, say your sights need adjusting.
Only human error causes misses or bad groups!!
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Instructors expect you to have tested your equipment prior to taking their course. A new gun pulled out of the box needs a confirmed zero and check on fit/finish. You should clean it and fire a few boxes before training for accuracy with any firearm you own. If you show up in my classroom/range, I do not want to have to troubleshoot your firearm, I just want to coach your shooting technique.

Just a guess, but was there an issue with a loose or improperly aligned sight from the factory?
 
The weapon,one of several pistols I own,has always shot high right.
It was at the range specifically that day to verify and drift the sights to correct. This was the third outing with this particular pistol.
The first five rounds went high right at five yards, one hole.
The second five rounds went higher and further right at 15 yards, nice group.
The third five rounds were higher and further out more at 25 yards. All rounds the same high and right.
I retrieved the target and the range master tells me, "that's shooter error".
Huh?!!
Yea paragraph 4 on the shooter error hand out we have. Or something like that.
Shooter error! I was shooting from a rest.
All good groups, all the same results.
All my other pistols shoot a good zero including my other Sig M11 A1.
It's like education these days. Common sense is out the door.
A contrived formula must be used to educate to a contrived standard.
Drifted sight, old school correction, deflection issue solved.
Strange days we live in. Not so much a rant about the range officer as it was the bringing home to me the odd direction our society is taking especially in education/instruction.
Go by the formula, leave behind individual initiative and thought.
Sometimes - the bloody sights are just off!!!
Imagine that!!
 
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The sights were aligned square on the slide from the factory.
I had to drift it left after having the same exact result over the course of 200 rounds and the pistol cleaned twice. My two other Sigs and two Glocks were fine from the factory.
The Ruger target 22/45 I took out yesterday needed the sights adjusted also!! lol
Thank God for adjustable target sights :)
 
Sometimes, it is the gun.
I once had a pistol that shot high, unfortunately with fixed sights.
To get a correct point of impact required putting the front sight about half way down the rear one.
That worked, but what a bad habit to acquire.
 
The sights were aligned square on the slide from the factory.
I had to drift it left after having the same exact result over the course of 200 rounds and the pistol cleaned twice. My two other Sigs and two Glocks were fine from the factory.
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Minute deviations in the manufacturing process can result in sights being off, like a blade having a millimeter too much on top, or a rear sight and front sight misaligned to the barrel. You said so yourself, it was the third time out to the range and had always shot high right. There was a guy who got a S&W Performance center auto and the rear sight was sliding out of the dovetail. Shoot it, test it, make sure it works, then expect it to shoot POA/POI. I had to send my Kimber back because the slide stop detent was improperly installed. It happens to the "best" manufacturers all the time.
 
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