Y2K, the real one

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The actual millenium shift is due this january

Thats why A C Clarke called his book 2001.

Since the computer date shift Y2K was a non event due to either:

1) an extraordinary government & private sector remediation

2) the big guy upstairs

Has anyone heard any word of preparations for this January?

Will the Armagedon fears start again in a few months?

dZ
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dZ:
The actual millenium shift is due this january....

Has anyone heard any word of preparations for this January?

Will the Armagedon fears start again in a few months?dZ[/quote]

dZ,

I dunno...I doubt if there will be any reaction from the public about the upcoming real beginning of the next millennium. Probably because those that made so much noise about December 31, 1999, are the ones that can't count.

They didn't know that December 31, 1999, was not the end of the century, just like they will not know the December 31, 2000, is the end.

Joe
 
Call me dense, but I don't get it.

Why doesn't the 21st century begin until 01/01/2001?

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John/az
"When freedom is at stake, your silence is not golden, it's yellow..." RKBA!

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Do it for the children...
 
John...think like this...do you count 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10?

Or do you count 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9?

Hope that helps clear it up some.

All i'm hearing is TSHingTF middle of this month to middle of next. nothing about probs with 01...for the simple fact that most of my freinds are more concerned with Sept 15-Oct 15. Palistineian declaring a stehood. Clinton and an Oct Surprise. Running out of oild. Bunch of doomer stuff y'all just make fun of. :)
 
Computers don't care for semantics, all they saw was 99 becomming 00, doesn't matter if it was the "real" millennium or not. Fortunately it was no big deal. This year should have no significance at all since 01 is greater than 00.

Crowe

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I'm a burned-out Y2K'er. I have tons of stuff I'll never use (I hope). I felt better for it then, and stupider for it now. I have no regrets, but I think the anxiety and sleepless nights took their toll. I will never, ever underestimate the resiliency of the US economy again. This Y2K stuff was round 2, by the way, with round 1 being right after I got married, Jimmy C in the White House, the Soviet Threat, the Banking Crisis, the Foreign Debt Crisis all rolled into 1 tempestuous uproar. Until I PERSONALLY look up and see the asteroid descending, I'll never give credit to another apocalyptic hysteria. Thanks for letting me get this off my chest.
 
Hutch, "Until I PERSONALLY look up and see the asteroid descending, I'll never give credit to another apocalyptic hysteria."

With twelve years of food & other stuff stashed, I guess you wouldn't. ;)
 
Doc, don't place too much faith in gummint intervention. The major meltdowns in January all occurred in gummint systems. ;)
 
The only real benefit of all the Y2K fuss is that you can pick up a slightly used generator realy cheap. I have been in computers for 20 years, and I and my colleagues were amused and/or dismayed at the way panic-mongers turned a technical issue with defined parameters into The End Of Civilization As We Know It(tm).

What sickens me is the people who got rich on Y2K by selling survival foods at triple prices, conducting "Y2K Seminars" that just repeated info anyone could get from the web, and so on. I think the worse was the traveling revival meeting that came through town, demanding $250 for exclusive spiritual counseling on how to persuade your personal Y2K angel to keep you safe until the fires and plagues of locusts had died down.
 
I wouldn't worry about 1/1/2001. From a religious perspective, the danger point was 11/22/1999 - 12/21/1999 and NOTHING HAPPENED. From a computer point of view, the next danger will be on 1/18/2038 at 10:14PM EST and THAT crisis will make Y2K look like a "walk in the park".

[This message has been edited by FUD (edited September 05, 2000).]
 
What the hell.

I need all the excuses I can get. I think I can pull at least 2 new firearms out of this one.. (as long as the misses gets one too) :D

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>From a computer point of view, the next danger will be on 1/18/2038 at 10:14PM EST and THAT crisis will make Y2K look like a "walk in the park".[/quote]

Don't be a tease -- tell us what the problem is!
 
Well - I'm looking forward to a big hairy assed party because when I was with Cisco Systems (You know them - 80% of the internet is Cisco) everyone missed that '00 party, dang it. For Nuthin.

"We'll all get drunk and play Ping Pong!"
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Matt VDW:
Don't be a tease -- tell us what the problem is![/quote]I would say that close to 50% (maybe over 50%) of major corporations computers run on the UNIX operating system or some version of UNIX (even TFL is running a a version of UNIX).

UNIX keeps track of the time & date by counting seconds since 12:00:01AM GMT 1/1/1970. On 1/18/2038 at 10:14PM EST, the number of seconds will be larger than what can be stored in a 4-byte integer. Consequently, there will be no way to tell the date & time after that point and instead of thinking that it is 1/18/2038, computers will think that is is 1/1/1970 again.

One solution that comes to mind off the top of my head is to store the time/date in an 8-byte integer but that would mean having to go back and modifying all of the exisitng programs & data -- a giant task far greater than the work required for the Y2K fix.

Is it do-able? Right now, I would say 'yes' but the longer we wait, the larger the task will become. Of course, on the other hand, three decades from now UNIX (and all of it's different versions) might die out as a popular computer operating system and this might become a non-issue.
 
Well, we'd better get going on that unix fix, 'cause I'd hate to suddenly have every thing go to he!! just a few months before my 98th birthday! How would I meet chicks on the internet?
crankshaft
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