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Sterling

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I aquired by trade a lightly used xdm9 4.5 this week. First time shooting it yesterday overall its a pleasant gun to shoot great trigger no malfunctions ergos are great and grip is comfy even after 200 rds. my groups were a little spread some mostly full hand sized off my poa 1.5-2" at 7 yds sandbag suported using win forged 115 steel practice ammo thinking just adjust the rear sight some ,at one point I thought -CENSORED--CENSORED--CENSORED--CENSORED- I got a bad barrel but then reason came over and I thought what are the chances, I mean it has no visual wear its mirror brite shinny inside the barrel lol. To compare with i brought along my almost new SR9 had it a month its got 700rds thru it/ same ammo - distance I grouped qaurter sized holes. I atribute the group diffrence to it being my first time shooting the xdm and havent made any sight adjustments. question to any xdm9 owner or shooter ; what is the xdm9 advertised acuracy if any or after hundreds of rds what kind of acuracy are you geting from the xdm9 at 7-10 or 15 yds ? what ammo brand and weight and do you beleive the xdm favors a brand or weight of ammo over another...? Im sure with more rds down range and sight adjust i can surely do better i hope anyway....
 
I no longer own an XDM9 but I used to, along with a half a dozen other XD/XDM/XD-s models in varying calibers and configurations. the accuracy you're seeing, if it is from sandbags is pretty atrocious as far as XDMs go. I do know that they are not very tolerant to junk ammo, the difference in accuracy is very apparent when switching from cheap plinking stuff to quality target ammo. I had an XDM45 that had similar accuracy, especially when shooting old steel cased ammo, I switched to some very nice remanufactured ammo and had no accuracy problems at all. I would be willing to wager a guess that switching from that junk winchester steel cased ammo to something just a little more like American eagle or speer lawman would do wonders to improve your accuracy. I also noted a major difference in accuracy when I swapped backstraps on my XDM9, perhaps changing from the medium backstrap to the large or small size might improve your ability to shoot it accurately. also, HSP, the company that makes the XD lines is a government contractor in Croatia which is very active in NATO... any guns they make are likely designed to handle NATO ammo which is quite a bit hotter than your average range ammo and a LOT hotter than your average white box steel cased junk.

also anecdotal information, I also own an SR9C and 9E, they are also more tolerant of poor quality ammo than most others... as far as accuracy goes anyway.
 
hmmm....the ammo used is not top shelf understood but how was i able to get 1" holes from my SR9 and in the past my Glock 17 ? I have 200rds of 115g new brass freedom munitions ammo Im trying next time. Also i just checked the rear sight with a bore laser it was a hair off perhaps that adjustment will move me over where I need be. if its ammo or sight adjustsments its a easy fix I was concerned the barrel was messed up , unlikely but it was a trade. Im gona keep trying. ill post results.
 
Your sights adjustment will only change point of aim to point of impact. If you are chasing all around your target trying to hit the bull then your grouping will be poor. Unless your sights are loose and shifting with recoil they should not effect grouping if you are using the same point of aim each shot.
 
Starling - are the barrels on your SR9 and Glock identical to your XCM? What do they slug at dimension wise? I'm only saying this as no two handguns are the same nor are the bore measurements so I don't think it is really fair to think that each one would shoot 1" groups with the same ammo?

All three handguns that you mention are excellent firearms but I wouldn't expect them to shoot "identical groups" . . . especially if you are using inexpensive ammo. I reload and mainly shoot cast, but I would never expect the same loading to shoot the same out of two different handguns. If they happened to, then I would consider it a lucky break. Every handgun is going to shoot differently with different ammunition/loads.

As far as barrels go - you Glock, if it is a stock barrel, is rifled differently. Plus, you're XDM is new to you so have you really shot it enough to "learn" the handgun? What were the conditions the days you shot the SR9 and Glock as to compared when you shot your XDM? Were you well rested at all shooting times or perhaps did you get tired after shooting your XDM for a while?

I'm not saying these things to be critical in any way. I just think that you need to realize that there are a lot of variables thrown in that could very well affect your "groups". I've been shooting more than 50 years and even with a favorite handgun that I know well, I can have a bad day . . . might be my batch of ammo but it may very well be me but I have learned along the way not to expect the same exact thing out of two different handguns. Try different ammo brands and bullet weights and more than likely, you'll find one that gives the "sweet spot" for that particular handgun.:)
 
Get some brass cased ammo from a major maker and shoot sitting, off sand bags at 15 yards with the xdm and another same caliber gun.

Post pics of your result.


Your current post has too many variables to be sure what is wrong.
 
I don't know what Springfield says about their Xdm line for accuracy. To me, they're just another polymer framed semi auto.

That said, I just picked up a used Xdm 5.25. It shoots pretty good. 15yds 2 hands no rest, 2" groups. {If I do my part} 61yr old eyes, so it isn't always good...lol.
Accuracy is on par with my M&P 5" pro.
 
My nephew was in over Christmas break and was shooting his XDS 9mm and anything past 20 ft it was all over the place. They were using target fmj loads and neither his brother or my son could do any better to keep it on target.

They picked up his mothers Makarov and all three were wearing the target out at 30-35 ft. I suggested he contact Springfield as it is a new gun that probably doesn't have 200 rds through it.
 
Update post rear sight adjust diffrent ammo

"upload of file failed" said the icon after trying to post target pictures..... In a nutshell After drifting the rear sight a hair and returned to the 7yd line my groups were noticeably improved. hand to palm size and over poa I did have two that were 2--2.5," shot suported. overall an improvement from the other day. ammo used today Federal fmj 115 brass. I did have two mags of win forged steel left over and in my opinion shot the same as the feds. I think the sight adjustment was the main factor in getting my groups closer / on poa. any advise on how to post pictures appreciated.
 
I gave up long ago, what I do is upload them to photobucket and imbed the image by clicking the insert image icon in TFL message editor and pasting the URL
 
The few xd I have shot were very accurate from 7yds to15yds with winchester 124g Nato and federal premium 124g, WWB 115g and the federal aluminum 115g was all over the place for me, I don't why it happens
 
their are no sandbags on the pistol side of the range only the rifle side. my tool bag / gunbag is roughly a foot and a half high with a foam handle i use to rest my wrist chest high. This way I managed two 2 - 2.5" groups touching with full mags 19rds. I managed the same with my sr9 and G17. it be good to know if Springfield has a advertised or recorded acuracy for the xdm9 4.5 rather than comparing to what Bill and Todds gun shoots. For the time being Im happy with its performance hoping with more range time ill get better results. Ultimately ill either accept it or send it to Springfield to check if it shoots to specs. if it does great if not depending on what Springfield says i may buy another match barrel if that dont get it i may just sell it. but thats worst case scenario lol
 
wait I'm confused... so on your latest outing, you took it and shot it alongside two different guns of different manufacturers and all three shot relatively same groups... and you're sending it in to have the accuracy checked? :confused:
 
baring catastrophic failure....no and no. I called Springfield this am and was informed the acuracy specs for the xdm9 4.5 "3.5 inches at 25yds" so now I got my work cut out, gona try to meet those specs myself or close to them. then focus on other items.
 
Got an XDM 3.8 .45 recently. Agree with others on the steel ammo. Mine shoots one hole groups with good ammo. I put some Monarch steel through it and it would hardly feed it. Lots of my guns (Glocks, SIG's, HK's) no problem with the steel. XDM just chokes and pukes with it. Any brass and it's a tackdriver. Match barrel causing problems with the steel? I don't know. Just stay away from steel with it.
 
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