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Dr.Rob

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You all know I'm a fan of the 30-06, but dad bought an 1895 marlin rifle in 45-70 with a curved steel buttplate.

Sending a 405 grain bullet downrange with iron sites and only your bravado to tame the recoil.. makes ya feel like you are wielding the hammer of thor. Read this NOT a giude gun, no porting, steel buttplate. Talk about a stout crunch.

Man I gotta get a big bore.

I'm still thinking of the 375 H&H.
 
Yes I bet the recoil was fun. I fired a 45-70 in one of the TC contender guns one time. That was a blast. If you like recoil you need to get you a .460 Weatherby magnum and shoot it without the recoil pad and then let me know how that feels.
 
I have a friend who owns and 1886 Roth-Steyer Kropatchek conversion in 45-70. Super fun to shoot. And yes there is something really satisfying about watching the dirt berm behind the target open up like it was hit with a posthole digger! :)
 
Now you are talking BIGR. People always comment about their 45-70 kicks butt. I agreee they are fun to shoot and thump pretty good but nothing compares to a .460 Weatherby. I have a Ruger #1H that was a .458 Win Mag rechambered to .460 Weatherby.

My standard load pushes a 500 gr bullet out at 2,600 fps and out of a light gun like the #1H it gives you a big thump. If you ever get a chance to try one, give it a go and then you know what recoil is. :p
 
As you can see by my handle, I too love the big thumpers. Once you try out one of the big "expresses" (375H&H, 404 Jeffery, 450 Nitro, etc, etc) you really will start thinking of recoil as "fun"!

The problem with the 460 Weatherby is that, to the undoubtedly stout kick, is added an intolerable amount of muzzle blast, compared to the more low-pressure classic British cartridges.

In fact, about 25% of the recoil of Weatherby cartridges is created by the exceeding amount of gases generating from the burning of all that powder. It is like firing a rocket into your shoulder!

My favorite "high-recoil" piece remains my Ruger #1 in 416 Rigby. It is surely a "manly" rifle but it is still fun to shoot and enjoyable to practice with.

[This message has been edited by 416Rigby (edited October 24, 2000).]
 
All above is quite true but I want a rifle that thumps what I'm aiming at, not me, and I haven't met anyone who is willing to stand in front of my M1A while I fire it, wussy .30 cal. or not. ;)

Besides I'm dreaming about a Shiloh Sharps 1874 in .50.

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The russian carbines are great for muzzle blast. I used to shoot just to see the blast, feel the kick, and hear the bang on that gun. What fun! Especially near dusk.
 
Here is my dream rifle. Some day I will be able to get it. If you have seen the movie Quigley Down Under you will recognize it.
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Here is the company, cost is $1495.00 http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/1874-quigley.htm
 
If you want to get a big(er) bore cheap try a Styer M95 in 8x56R using mill-surp ammo I can say it will be rememberd over dinner after the shoot.
 
416Rigby, I concur with your appraisal of the 416 Rigby. I recently aquired one and have been reloading for it. You are definitely using "enough gun" without spewing copious amounts of inefficient powder downrange or slowing working on getting rotator cuff surgery.

My current load is Norma brass, Federal large magnum primers, 90.0 grains of Reloader 22, and Hornady 400 grain soft point. My next load to work up will involve a solid bullet or the new .416 partition.
 
Muzzle-blast junkies on a budget who are looking for an alternative to the somewhat crude Moisin-Nagant M1944g's are advised to check out some of the "Tanker" Enfields marketed by Gibbs Rifle and others. Cheap, nicely-made, and yow! what muzzle blast...

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"..but never ever Fear. Fear is for the enemy. Fear and Bullets."
10mm: It's not the size of the Dawg in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog!
 
A question about the Enfield Tankers:
A few months back I had the opportunity to shoot a made-in-India tanker model chambered for .308. No major complaints on accuracy, and the recoil and muzzle flash were quite satisfying.
However, on the second or third shot, the part of the stock below the barrel fell off. You know, the bit that gives the Enfield tanker that really nasty, squared-off front. Yeah, that fell off. Looked like it had been held on by wood glue.
Any ideas on fixing this thing?

Justin
 
I've been lucky enough to fire some really big-bore guns, the British elephant guns, .505 Gibbs, .470 Nitro, .465, .425 Westley Richards, etc.

The absolute WORST recoil?

A 1.25 ounce, 3.5 dram equiv. 12-gauge slug out of my father's 6.5 pound Ithaca Featherweight shotgun.

No recoil pad, just a T-shirt.

I couldn't shoot a shotgun for nearly two weeks.

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Smith & Wesson is dead to me.

If you want a Smith & Wesson, buy USED!
 
I have one of the Ishapore .308 tankers. My wood stock thing didn't fall off, it flew off! I went flying about 5 yards forward after I shot. I am not quite sure how it propelled quite that far, but it did. I reglued it and I hope it stays.
 
Mike Irwin,

Try it in a 5 pound NEF single shot 12 gauge. I felt like I had been in a car rearended by a train. Youch!
 
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