Would you fight?

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If guns were to be banned in this country, and all civilian arms turned in for destruction(penalty for not doing so would be imprisonment)...

Would you fight for freedom?

I would.
 
Yes, but I'd wait until they brought trouble to me first. I wouldn't go looking for it. They'd have to start it or we'd all live happily ever after.
 
As much as I'd like to say I would, unless I started robbing pharmacies, and mail-order medical supply companies, I'd be dead within weeks, if not days.

It simply is not an option for me.
 
Yes, but I'd wait until they brought trouble to me first. I wouldn't go looking for it. They'd have to start it or we'd all live happily ever after.
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Pretty much the way it would be for me. Kind of the reason I don't/won't have a registered firearm in my house. To take guns from most of people up my way, they'd have to prepare for a lot more than a few guys..
 
Lead follow or get out the way

Can't really say that I'm a great leader but I can be a follower for the right cause.
If I knew that there would be others I would fight.
If not I'd probably just try to stay out of the way

Not really all that proud of it but that's pretty much the truth
 
"I'm a parent. I haven't the luxury of principles."

Watch the patriot - worse thing you can do is directly threaten/affect some guy's family then the cooperation stops... Yeah, I've got a tomahawk and I know how to use it.
 
If the US was to ban guns in every State, I assume Virginia would secede (again), and if my State was then attacked (again) in an attempt to force it back in the Union against its will (again), then that would be the good fight (again).

But if the idea is for the people of the whole US to rise up and shoot it out with the US government, I do not believe they have any such right. The US is not a State empowered by the people, it is a Union empowered by the States. When the US goes too far, the check is secession and civil war.

The thing is, if the US bans guns, then that means many States and many people want to ban guns, it is not as if the States and the people will be on one side and the US on another. The US *is* the States and the people.
 
I might fight, but not alone. If there was a nationwide rebellion with some chance of success, I would probably join. If that were not the case, I would probably wrap up my guns in some sort of waterproof insulated bag, and bury them way out in the boondocks. The kind of place no one would think to look, and only the very fit could get to without a helicopter.
 
But if the idea is for the people of the whole US to rise up and shoot it out with the US government, I do not believe they have any such right.
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I believe that you are wrong
The US is not a State empowered by the people, it is a Union empowered by the States.
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And here I thought that it was a goverment of, for and by the people .
 
But if the idea is for the people of the whole US to rise up and shoot it out with the US government, I do not believe they have any such right. The US is not a State empowered by the people, it is a Union empowered by the States. When the US goes too far, the check is secession and civil war.
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The check is actually the 2nd Ammendment. Research the battle of Lexington and Concord, the whole reason it was even fought is that the Brit's demanded that the Colonists turn in their arms, and the colonists refused.

I do see Urban areas as being the primary locations where people would surrender, get into rural areas though...

Also, factor in.. how many Soldiers and Policemen would fight their fellow countrymen over the constitution and the rights it grants?
 
Two words: MOLON LAVE!!

"If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate, Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in - I would have done it." - Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)
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There you go - that's the plan. If the Demosocialist power brokers could get it passed by one vote and get a Demosocialist "President" to sign it into law, don't think for a second that they would not do it. The question is: What are you going to do about it?

Firearms and freedom are inseperable. As for me, I refuse to meekly hand over my freedom to my supposed "betters" and live like the subjugated people of England.

In England, the pepole are not safe in their own homes; they cannot walk down the street and have any measure of assurance that they will get back home alive. The police merely show up to fill out the paperwork about ther robbery, rape or murder of the day. If the people try to defend themselves against attack and as a result hurt or kill the thug, they are the ones that go to prison. Home invasions and street crime are rampant in England; the people are at the mercy of cold-blooded thugs that prey on them with impunity, while the political masters of the people either carry arms themselves, or are protected by bodyguards that are armed to the teeth. All so that the "Lords and Masters" of the people can rule with absolute power and no accountability.

As for me, I refuse to live like that. Firearms and freedom are one in the same. I refuse to submit to the demands of the ruling class; I refuse to meekly hand over my firearms to the political "Lords and Masters" simply so they can rule here with absolute power and no accountability.

If the socialist autocrats ever take over here and try to confiscate our firearms, I will fight to the last bullet. I entertain no delusions about the outcome of such action, but as someone once said, "Better to die a free man fighting for freedom than to live on your knees as a slave."

If the socialists turn this country into a socialist oligarchy and implement autocratic rule, I don't want to live to see it. IMHO, if that happens, the living will envy the dead.

MOLON LABE!!!
 
The correct quote is "Better to die standing than live on your knees" by Emiliano Zapata if I remember correctly.
 
Agree

I agree but caution what is wrote here in public is viewed by public.......not yellow and by far not a coward. I too would die in fight for freedom than live in chains... I can think most of us are like minded and smart folks here. "Just don't give your game plan to those you may fight on another day"... (Bo Schembeckler *veteran coach of U of M Wolverines) ;)

"live free or die"
(civil war flag? or revolution?) no matter 4 powerful words...
 
How could we fight if all arms had been turned in?

But hey, you don't worry none. I've talked to several cops and they say they would never confiscate guns. When I asked them about news reports where cops have confiscated guns they don't know nothing about that. So I think we're safe. :p
 
Anoher way to look at this. If a few hundred reports of Barney Fife getting plugged when he went to pick up someone's guns started getting out, I think most people would come to their senses. I think that most would realize that the people doing this would be the people who up till that day were completely law abiding. I would think the public outcry, even from non-gunners, would be too great for anyone to ignore.

But, I have been told that sometimes I put too much faith into mankind.
 
Would I Fight?

Has a cat got whiskers? Your danged tootin' I would! Too old to be accepted in any military or constabulary organization but an Expert Rifleman with eyes like an eagle and a steady aim! Don't smoke, might make a good sniper.
 
I might fight, but not alone. If there was a nationwide rebellion with some chance of success, I would probably join. If that were not the case, I would probably wrap up my guns in some sort of waterproof insulated bag, and bury them way out in the boondocks. The kind of place no one would think to look, and only the very fit could get to without a helicopter.
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Hugh Damright said:
But if the idea is for the people of the whole US to rise up and shoot it out with the US government, I do not believe they have any such right. The US is not a State empowered by the people, it is a Union empowered by the States. When the US goes too far, the check is secession and civil war.
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Respectfully, I disagree, sir. When a government decrees that the plain wording of its own founding charter is null and void, in part or in whole, and begins passing laws in contradiction to that charter, said government has declared itself to be above all restrictions and limits. It thus becomes a rouge state, subject to no controls other that what it sees as fit to implement. At such times the people do have the right to forcibly change or get rid of said government and replace it with something better.

It was more eloquently said here;
--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
Part of the opening paragraph of the Declaration of Independence.
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Some thoughts and insights for my brothers & sisters in the shooting community;

If the scalliwags managed to get 51 votes to "turn 'em all in" I would not expect too many knocks on the door or midnight raids with hordes of SWAT members. I suspect that dealers and collectors would be closely checked and anyone who has more than 100 weapons at first. Then 50 weapons and then 30 weapons, etc. These would be propagandized on the evening news, of course. Instead of raiding our homes the most likely tactic would be "accountability". You couldn't renew your driver's license, for instance, until you had accounted for all of your weapons being turned in. "Sold"? Fine, just sign this affidavit naming to buyer. As soon as we locate the weapon(s) you're license will be reissued. Just imagine if that were applied to ... Social Security benefits, Veterans benefits, your ability to have your IRS 1040 accepted (that's a biggie!), or even your ability to work by revoking your Social Security number! Pressure could be put on us in a number of ways (unconstitutionally of course) to comply.

Even if they don't apply such legalistic arm-twisting, you could find yourself getting the short end of the stick. If you use a firearm to defend your home against intruders, even if it was six very nasty thugs with long criminal histories armed with meat cleavers screaming "Die you [racist epithet here] bas***d" you'll be prosecuted for just having a gun in the first place -- and likely reduce your status to pauper courtesy of the legal system.

I doubt we'd see door-to-door searches. Given today's climate, it's more likely that the cops could come to your door, claiming a "bomb threat" and forcibly "evacuate" the street. After putting residents in a "safe zone" blocks away, they could enter homes and search them. Once you step up to your front door, the arrest team stops you and carts you off to jail.

Fortunately I think a lot of good police officers would stand up and ask if it was really necessary, legal, etc. Just before they were relieved of duty. Unfortunately, I think there would be all too many officers & agents who would "go along" - whether for personal or political reasons.

That's my $0.10 worth.
 
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