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"Would die for your guns" poll--vote quickly!!
- Thread starter Meat-Hook
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Interesting....wonder how many will put it on the line when the time comes....
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Sam I am, grn egs n packin
Nikita Khrushchev predicted confidently in a speech in Bucharest, Rumania on June 19, 1962 that: " The United States will eventually fly the Communist Red Flag...the American people will hoist it themselves."
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Sam I am, grn egs n packin
Nikita Khrushchev predicted confidently in a speech in Bucharest, Rumania on June 19, 1962 that: " The United States will eventually fly the Communist Red Flag...the American people will hoist it themselves."
MP Freeman
New member
I'm not gonna fight for my GUNS. Guns are just metal and wood.
Fight for freedom. OH YEAH.
Fight for freedom. OH YEAH.
Juan Hunt Greer
New member
Done. 2088-13 our side wins again. Somehow, I don't expect to see the results on cbs/nbc/abc/etc.
crankshaft
nralife, goa, jpfo, fcsa, smvfm
paranoia is a good thing to have when they're actually out to get You!!
crankshaft
nralife, goa, jpfo, fcsa, smvfm
paranoia is a good thing to have when they're actually out to get You!!
Satanta, you may be correct, that if push comes to shove, only 10% of gun owners will fight for Freedom, Liberty, and Rights. But, given that there at least, today, 80,000,000 gun owners in this country (I think more, but that is beside the point), 10% would be 8,000,000 GUERILLA fighters.
Personally, I'd sure hate to be a military member, or LEO, seeking to destroy Freedom, Liberty and Rights, when I knew beyond any doubt, that there were 8,000,000 armed people around me who had one object in mind, and that was to kill me, with no equivocations.
For example, I have a very good friend who did two tours in Vietnam, as a U.S. Navy SEAL. He told me that he and his teammates were more worried while in camp, than when on a mission, because on a mission, they knew who was "the enemy." In camp, he said they were never sure who was the enemy, because there was no way to tell the difference between a Vietnamese who was loyal to the So. V.N. govt., or who was V.C.
JMHO. J.B.
Personally, I'd sure hate to be a military member, or LEO, seeking to destroy Freedom, Liberty and Rights, when I knew beyond any doubt, that there were 8,000,000 armed people around me who had one object in mind, and that was to kill me, with no equivocations.
For example, I have a very good friend who did two tours in Vietnam, as a U.S. Navy SEAL. He told me that he and his teammates were more worried while in camp, than when on a mission, because on a mission, they knew who was "the enemy." In camp, he said they were never sure who was the enemy, because there was no way to tell the difference between a Vietnamese who was loyal to the So. V.N. govt., or who was V.C.
JMHO. J.B.
Pretty narrow perspective, giving the choice of death, yay or nay, for ownership of firearms.
I don't intend to die for ownership of firearms.
I expect someone else is willing to die to deny me that RIGHT though.
With no other but a couple of incidents within the past decade to base numbers on, I'd use Ruby Ridge, and Waco.
Considering that these were involving certain government agencies that are a focus of topics here at TFL.
Ruby Ridge, a Federal Marshall was killed in the onset of the "affair"? Vicki and Sammy were also lost there.
That's a 2:1 ratio, numerically speaking.
Although I don't know the exact number of enforcement types were present, from start to finish, I'd say these were not good odds.
Waco, the first day there were what 4 ATF agents killed? I'm not sure it's officially known how many Davidians were killed the same day.
What is known, is that there were 80+ Davidians who perished by the time the whole event was finished.
So, here we have a 80 to 4, or 20:1 ratio. Even more devastating numbers.
Keeping in mind that the Weavers, and Davidians were the perverbial duck in the barrel.
I don't suspect that this will be the situation in the future, if and when, certain parties decide to go door-to-door in a gun/ammunition/book confiscation raid.
For then the "grabbers" will have too much around them to try to maintain absolute control for their purposes. What are they going to do, surround an entire city? Cutting off all airline, railroad, road traffic. Then go neighborhood to neighborhood, in a mass confiscation?
I've read several times about the Nazi's who attempted this in the Warsaw ghettos.
Yes, for the most part, it worked. But a small handful of ignorant resistors threw a wrench into the works.
As Jay mentioned, if you were to extract the small percentage of firearms owners willing, you'd have an awesome number of people with the will to fight. Factor in the knowledge of firearms, and marksmanship, and you've just messed the while damn equation up.
I for one, sure as hell wouldn't want to be a part of the forces handed authority to confiscate firearms in this country. Regardless of Local, State, Federal, or UN specification. A life insurance company would void all contracts made by military, or other agencies involved in such asction.
In other words, they would likely consider the action to be the same as a war, because it would be. And in war, most, if not all policies are, null and void.
Out!
I don't intend to die for ownership of firearms.
I expect someone else is willing to die to deny me that RIGHT though.
With no other but a couple of incidents within the past decade to base numbers on, I'd use Ruby Ridge, and Waco.
Considering that these were involving certain government agencies that are a focus of topics here at TFL.
Ruby Ridge, a Federal Marshall was killed in the onset of the "affair"? Vicki and Sammy were also lost there.
That's a 2:1 ratio, numerically speaking.
Although I don't know the exact number of enforcement types were present, from start to finish, I'd say these were not good odds.
Waco, the first day there were what 4 ATF agents killed? I'm not sure it's officially known how many Davidians were killed the same day.
What is known, is that there were 80+ Davidians who perished by the time the whole event was finished.
So, here we have a 80 to 4, or 20:1 ratio. Even more devastating numbers.
Keeping in mind that the Weavers, and Davidians were the perverbial duck in the barrel.
I don't suspect that this will be the situation in the future, if and when, certain parties decide to go door-to-door in a gun/ammunition/book confiscation raid.
For then the "grabbers" will have too much around them to try to maintain absolute control for their purposes. What are they going to do, surround an entire city? Cutting off all airline, railroad, road traffic. Then go neighborhood to neighborhood, in a mass confiscation?
I've read several times about the Nazi's who attempted this in the Warsaw ghettos.
Yes, for the most part, it worked. But a small handful of ignorant resistors threw a wrench into the works.
As Jay mentioned, if you were to extract the small percentage of firearms owners willing, you'd have an awesome number of people with the will to fight. Factor in the knowledge of firearms, and marksmanship, and you've just messed the while damn equation up.
I for one, sure as hell wouldn't want to be a part of the forces handed authority to confiscate firearms in this country. Regardless of Local, State, Federal, or UN specification. A life insurance company would void all contracts made by military, or other agencies involved in such asction.
In other words, they would likely consider the action to be the same as a war, because it would be. And in war, most, if not all policies are, null and void.
Out!
sabot slug
Inactive
I notice some of you do not equate you gun rights with the rest of your rights/freedom. Well, you go ahead and let you gun rights slip away, and see where the rest of them go. Your rights ARE you freedoms, and your GUN RIGHTS guarantee the rest! Yeah, JUST LET THOSE GUN RIGHTS SLIP AWAY! You can also kiss the rest goodbye at the same time. JEESH! How NAZI Germany can you get! Some of you need to buy a brain...
The actual text of the question is, BTW:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>If all means of legal/civil recourse failed to restore America to a constitutional Republic and gun confiscations began, would you risk you life in a physical battle for freedom?[/quote]
Done.
"Yes", of course.
99%_2859 Righteous Folk.
01%___17 Confused Serfs.
[This message has been edited by Tamara (edited August 13, 2000).]
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>If all means of legal/civil recourse failed to restore America to a constitutional Republic and gun confiscations began, would you risk you life in a physical battle for freedom?[/quote]
Done.
"Yes", of course.
99%_2859 Righteous Folk.
01%___17 Confused Serfs.
[This message has been edited by Tamara (edited August 13, 2000).]