Worst AR15s
- Thread starter RamItOne
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In reality, some of the companies got their bad name years ago but currently produce useable rifles. I received one of "black list" AR uppers as a gift from my family several years ago. The family had no idea the company was supposedly making POS rifles/uppers but being on a budget, they bought in good faith.
That upper using the crappiest junk ammo will make a surprisingly good showing and fed good ammo will rival most any AR on the market at a reasonable price. When the upper was ordered and the reason for the purchase stated, (wife of the company's owner took the order) the owner handbuilt the upper himself to HIS standards-not his employees' standards.
Now, I wouldn't part with that upper regardless of performance but have no reason to fault it for any reason. Most shooters wouldn't accept one of this brand as a gift let alone buy one but I can't complain about mine.
Oddly enough, someone must be buying this brand or they would have gone out of business several years ago.
That upper using the crappiest junk ammo will make a surprisingly good showing and fed good ammo will rival most any AR on the market at a reasonable price. When the upper was ordered and the reason for the purchase stated, (wife of the company's owner took the order) the owner handbuilt the upper himself to HIS standards-not his employees' standards.
Now, I wouldn't part with that upper regardless of performance but have no reason to fault it for any reason. Most shooters wouldn't accept one of this brand as a gift let alone buy one but I can't complain about mine.
Oddly enough, someone must be buying this brand or they would have gone out of business several years ago.
Technosavant
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These. All the same company, they change their name when their rep catches up to them. The one Vulcan AR I've seen in person was the most unrepentant crock of garbage I've ever seen. Extremely poor fit and finish, the lower parts kit felt mushy and of unacceptably poor quality.
Generally, most of the rest of them are just fine as long as you know what you're buying. Don't go out and buy a DPMS Sportical expecting to have a rifle that can run with the Colt or Bravo Company guns; while it MIGHT be able to do that, the nicer brands tend to have tighter attention to quality control, more detailed inspections, and use higher quality materials. Just be realistic about your budget, your desires, and what you end up getting. There's no reason that $800 AR can't be a perfectly decent gun, but if somebody tells me that their $800 AR is every bit as good as a LaRue Stealth, I'm going to assume they are more interested in feeling good about their purchase than in knowing the actual ins and outs of the platform.
Palmetto-Pride
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I check out there website and wow the pics on there website aren't even worth crap. If they pulled there very best for the marketing pics I would hate to see what they actually send out.
Therealkoop
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Palmetto. Hesse/vulcan while crappy are at least CONSISTANTLY crappy. Palmetto has been a diceroll to myself and many others.
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Billy Shears
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Plum Crazy.
Therealkoop said:
Palmetto? Diceroll? Really? My one and only AR-15 is a build from a Palmetto upper and lower. Maybe I just got lucky, but I'm the kind of person who does a lot of research before I buy. I spent a lot of time over at ARFCOM reading opinions and I can't say that there were very many negative reviews for the company or their products.
Or did I miss something?
ETA: You can speak poorly of my heritage. You can call my mother names. You can refer to my wife as a female dog....but I will NOT tolerate anyone making disparaging remarks about my EBR.
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madcratebuilder
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Therealkoop said:
Putting PSA in the same class as Vulcan/Hesse is just so wrong
PSA sells a mil-spec quality rifle at a great price point. Like any seller they have had a few rifles slip past QC that should not have. The owner reviews on PSA runs a hundred to one that they are gtg.
PSA sells a rifle with a FN barrel, mil-spec BCG and RE for $600, name one other manufacturer that comes close to that.
Therealkoop
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Hopefully it didnt come from thier personal ARFCOM subforum. You know, the one where they constantly delete posts that might make people look at thier company in a negative light.
Any company that can ship uppers with the wrong length gas tubes, get sand in thier anodization tank, ship out defected lowers, mismatch MOE kits, ship out lowers without the front take-down pin, have a thread called "where is my order?" stickied because of the sheer number of complaints, delete complaints from thier subforum unanswered, have incorrectly mated m4 feedramps and have out of spec extractors all in one year is not my kind of company.
Theres one reason and one reason ONLY that people genuinely like palmetto, and its because they are CHEAP.
PSA pumps out product as fast as possible and then tosses it out on thier customers. If it works then cool. If it doesnt they repair it and send a free mag or something so thier buyer gets online and is like "Oh my gosh, PSA has the BEST CS EVER!". When actually they recieved a product that shouldve never passed QC.
Therealkoop
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I should add that if you do get a PSA, and you have all the parts, and it works, then theres nothing to say: its a fine rifle and it likely wont have any problems.
Its the whole getting what and all of what you paid for thing that doesnt always work out. Im sick of then leaning on the "were understaffed" excuse. if your understaffed then you had better well make sure what you are sending out isnt coming back, or your workload is obviously going up.
Theyve basically have had more mass QC isues in one/two years than DD/BCM/Nov/Colt have had combined for many more. Thats says a lot when a BCM is less than 200$ more to build.
Its the whole getting what and all of what you paid for thing that doesnt always work out. Im sick of then leaning on the "were understaffed" excuse. if your understaffed then you had better well make sure what you are sending out isnt coming back, or your workload is obviously going up.
Theyve basically have had more mass QC isues in one/two years than DD/BCM/Nov/Colt have had combined for many more. Thats says a lot when a BCM is less than 200$ more to build.
Mrgunsngear
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I have 4 PSAs with probably 10000 rounds through them total. I've had 0 malfunctions and one of them is my most accurate AR. Maybe others have had issues (yes, they don't communicate well and it takes a few weeks to get parts) but once you have them in your paws they're great rifles.
Therealkoop
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This is all im really saying. If you have it and its complete its good to go.