Wolff's spring Type 2 works great!

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I recently installed a Wollf's main spring Type 2 in my SW66. I have noticed my trigger being slightly lighter, but not a whole lot. In fact the difference was so slight that I actually put an original spring back, did some dry firing and then installed Wollf's again just to compare and make sure there is a difference. Yes, there is, but just a tiny bit.

However range results proved that the difference is more than "just a tiny bit". My groupings in DA became significantly tighter and aiming for followup shots is easier too. So far I put about 300 rounds of different ammo through the gun with this spring and only had one misfire. But even that round went to the target on the second try.

I highly recommend this spring for target shooting, at least on K-frame revolvers for sure.
 
It's odd that you had a light strike after going just a "tiny bit" lighter on the trigger pull. Did you swap out the rebound spring as well? If not, that "tiny bit" may represent lower spring energy than the net trigger pull represents.

Also, internal resistance robs the hammer of oompf, so a good action job often bring out the gun's potential after a spring swap. Conversely, if the gun's obviously in need of an action job, swapping springs can quickly lead to light strikes.
 
Did you swap out the rebound spring as well? If not, that "tiny bit" may represent lower spring energy than the net trigger pull represents.
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"Eggs-zactly". Much of a double action trigger pull weight comes from the heavy factory rebound spring.
 
internal resistance robs the hammer of oompf, so a good action job often bring out the gun's potential after a spring swap. Conversely, if the gun's obviously in need of an action job, swapping springs can quickly lead to light strikes.
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No, I replaced the main spring only, rebound spring is original . Long story short I got this spring for free, so I figured why not give it a try? I wouldn't mind doing a trigger job if I can find a reputable revolver smith nearby Chicago. The place where I go has a gun smith, but I spoke with him a few times on different gun related subjects and he seemed kind of careless. Then again, does he have to be very good to do a simple trigger job? On my Nagant I polished parts to improve the action myself, it seemed pretty simple. I just don't want to mess with a fairly expensive gun which I love, in fear of screwing things up...

BTW. As I said, I only had one misfire out of about 300 rounds of different ammo. The misfire was with inexpensive Remington green box round. I am really not sure if this was a result of a lighter spring at this point. It could of been just a bad round... I did shoot a few boxes of the same Remington rounds without any issues afterwards.
 
And here's another rub - IME, there are often some local guys who aren't technically "gunsmiths" who do some really nice action work on revolvers. There are a number of them around here who I'd want to tune one of my guns. Conversely, there are a number of official "gunsmiths" around here I wouldn't consider: It's not that they're incompetent; it's just that I know I'd get better work from the former group. Unfortunately, it's not easy to find them - it's by word of mouth and by being active in the shooting community.
 
If I could find a local guy that was recommended -- I might give him work on some average Model 10 and see what comes back. If it's really impressive, then introduce him to your prized Model 66! :D
 
And of course, I'm pretty sure you'll never find a guy who advertises himself as "Not pretty good".


Sgt Lumpy
 
And here's another rub - IME, there are often some local guys who aren't technically "gunsmiths" who do some really nice action work on revolvers. There are a number of them around here who I'd want to tune one of my guns. Conversely, there are a number of official "gunsmiths" around here I wouldn't consider: It's not that they're incompetent; it's just that I know I'd get better work from the former group. Unfortunately, it's not easy to find them - it's by word of mouth and by being active in the shooting community.
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Where I live (Michigan), anyone can and sometimes do, call themselves "gunsmiths". Their skill level is as varied as those people themselves. The problem is, as you have alluded to, is to tell the difference.
The paradox of finding a "good" gunsmith to work on a S&W (or others), is that if you know enough about what a gunsmith should to the action, you are more likely to be able to do it yourself. Therefore, if a person has no knowledge whatsoever of what is involved in an action job, he is not likely to be able to tell the difference between a good gunsmith, and a pretender and will have to take it on faith.
 
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More comments I read, more I am inclined to do the job myself... I opened, cleaned and re-oiled a few revolvers before and, as I stated above, I did an "action job" on the Nagant myself. Sounds like what I need is a good instructional video. I saw a few videos on Youtube, but no sure which one to follow... Any recommendations? Thanks.
 
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Then you too could open a shop and be a "not pretty good" gunsmith.
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Good one! Once when I was thirty I decided that I was to learn watchmaking. I took some classes on the internet, then apprenticeship at the known local watchmaking shop and... became somewhat of a master-watchmaker. Since then I worked on Rolex, Omega, Jaeger, Longines, you name it. I have a pretty long list of clientele... never open a shop or turn it into a serious business though. May be gun smiting is my next call? Do you know of any good instructional videos I could watch online? :p A man can become proficient in many different areas if he puts his mind into it, take Leonardo for example! ;)
 
If you have the cajones and skill to tune a Rolex, dig into that Smith !!
 
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A man can become proficient in many different areas if he puts his mind into it, take Leonardo for example! ;)
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I like your attitude and your track record would indicate that you could do a fine job inside your revolver... but I'll have to disagree just a smidge with the quoted text.

It takes more than one putting his mind to it in far more than most cases.

If I was stuck on a deserted island with a piano and was told to become a performance quality piano player and that would not only get me off the island, but give me wealth beyond my wildest imagination... I would be found dead, baked in the sun and laying somewhere near a piano.

Some folks are better equipped for certain tasks than other ever could be. People seem to give FAR too much credit to "will" and "desire."
 
We're approaching the prenennial and un-answerable "nature vs nurture".

I believe that it's ALL nurture. ie, ANYone can learn to do ANYthing. Nobody is born with the piano playing gene or the gun smithing gene or the watch repairing gene.

I do get humored a lot, though, by those who say "Well I could watch a few YouTubes and be as good as someone who has gone to trade school and worked on the same item a few thousand times under the wing of an expert.

Not to mention the even simpler, you'll invest several times the money in tools than it will cost you to get the job done well by a true expert.

Not ragging on Aid. I just see a lot of men thinking "Hey, I'll just go down to Home Depot and pick up a 2x4 and a saw and I could build one of them Stradavarius fiddles".


Sgt Lumpy
 
Nobody is born with the piano playing gene or the gun smithing gene or the watch repairing gene.
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Perhaps not specifically the "watch repairing gene" or any specific gene, but if your argument is that you could have been a better shooter than Rob Leatham or Brian Enos if you had:
--started at the same age
--gotten the same support
--did the same amount of practice
--were able to dedicate your life in exactly the same manner as they did

...you're a helluva dreamer. It doesn't work that way. Ask the tens of thousands of collegiate athletes that had all the desire of half the professionals and in some cases, twice the desire of some of the professionals.

It takes more than "want" and "desire." Some of it is well out of your hands.
 
There has never been an expert athlete, musician, craftsman, shooter etc who has said "I never really had to practice much".

There's been a bazillion "not quite there's" or just plain failures who said "I could never be as good as [fill in expert's name]"



Sgt Lumpy
 
If I was stuck on a deserted island with a piano and was told to become a performance quality piano player and that would not only get me off the island, but give me wealth beyond my wildest imagination... I would be found dead, baked in the sun and laying somewhere near a piano.
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Sevens, here is a kick: although I am very bad at playing piano, I've been playing guitar since I was about ten, I write music and lead the band with regular performances and following. ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF5N-zyRJok ) So, I can be considered somewhat of an expert on the subject. And here is my statement: If you were just left on the deserted island with a piano, you would die before you master it. But if were left there with a set of good video instructions and also a pro player, who would visit you once in a while to correct your mistakes, I can almost guarantee you would become at least an average player :D

Back to revolvers though... I understand I can not become a pro gun smith by just watching videos. That's why I wanted to know more what's involved in trigger job. Based on what I learned by working on my Nagant it shouldn't be very difficult task, but I just don't know for sure...
 
Anyone can learn to be a gunsmith. However, few of those will ever be outstanding at it.
If you think that anyone can be at the top of a profession (skill), with just determination and practice, you will have a tough time rationalizing why a Shetland Pony will never win the Kentucky Derby.
That being said, a person determined to do his own trigger job on a S&W, can with the proper mechanical background, attitude, mechanical aptitude, study, patience and practice, do a good job. In all due respect, it is a fairly simple machine with few parts...not rocket science.
 
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