Winchester Model 190 .22

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So for xmas I took my Old Man's Winchester Model 190 and completely restored it for him. It was his favorite .22 rimfire rifle when he was younger and he completely destroyed it pretty much. So I found all the parts and put it all back together etc... I threw a Leupold 3x9 on it and went to sight it in. Issue is, it did not feed properly at all. Every 15 rounds I loaded in the tube, between one and 3 would fail to eject. The bolt would close too fast, pinching the ejected round upon closing.

Is it because it was designed for rounds that are not as high as velocity as today's .22 rimfire rounds (CCI Mini-Mag)? Essentially speeding up the action too fast for the round to eject? Has anyone else had this problem? I know people are probably reading this wonder why I would care so much about a Win 190... but as stated before it was his fav rimfire rifle when he was a kid. Its actually a nicer early model!!

Merry Xmas and Thanks!!
 
Kinda doubt if its the ammo but what the heck,

try some standard velocity fodder in it and see what happens. I rescued a 190 last year from a neighbor's closet. It had been standing in there for over 20 years and she asked me if I would like to buy it. I cleaned a bunch of guck out of the action, brushed and patched the bore, removed some latex paint blobs that had spilled on the stock and receiver, mounted a scope, and zeroed it with Aguila Std Vel (bought a case for $230 at Camp Perry last summer). It has not had a failure to fire or misfeed out of over 300 rounds so far.

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I've had mine since 1972. It pretty much will eat any .22 LR round or brand I put in it. It does not have feed issues. It is my go-to skunk or porcupine gun in the middle of the night. I've added a laser for that purpose. It has a 40 year old 4 power scope. When I was a kid, it was my main rabbit gun. I got it when I was 12. It has had thousands and thousands of rounds through it.
 
I have had a 190 since 1974 and it would fire any ammo I put in it except Remington. I prefered CCI Mini Mags in mine since they seem to work the best in my rifle.

Check your firing pin to see if it is damaged or worn. The firing pin also serves as the ejector on this rifle. When the bolt comes back the firing pin hits the back of the receiver and ejects the casing. The firing pin or the back of the receiver could be worn or something is stopping the bolt from consistantly coming back all the way. The bolt assembly could also just need disassembly and a good cleaning.

I would also check the extractor and spring since it also affects ejection. The extractor and firing pin share the same spring and there are a couple of small ball bearings on each end of the spring that are easily lost when taking it apart. Good luck fixing your dad's 190.
 
Mine will feed and fire pretty much anything. Exceptionally reliable and has been in the family since the early 70's. Great gun but what a pain to clean! Getting the spring, spring guide and bolt back in is a pain!
 
Check the installation of the barrel. As I recall the nut holding the barrel in place can loosen (or not set right when installed). If the barrel is not spaced correctly it results in misfeeds or fail to fire. Check that out. Sorry for the vague details, its been a couple of years since I messed with one that had that problem.
 
Thanks all for the input! I used some standard velocity Remington rounds and it worked just fine. Also, I could have been partly because it has not been fired in decades and when it was in pieces I did clean a lube everything.

Peter... That spring and guide rod was a total pain in the ass. Somewhat humorous though as I did not expect anything concerning this firearm to be difficult during this project. The Winchester did make it hard on us putting that back together without the proper tool.
 
The best approach I have read is to cut a chunk of thin cardboard about 6" long by 1" wide and then form a 3" loop with it. Push the guide rod and spring in the loop and use the loop to guide the rod into the bolt while pushing it in.

This avoids the "sprong" that occurs when the spring slips right at the back of the bolt.

If you are gutsy, the alternative (which I have never done) is to remove the rear wood stock, and assemble the gun and guide rod then re-tighten the rear stock. Supposedly that works simply but I don't like taking the stock off an aluminum frame that often.

I just shoot mine and give it the best cleaning I can until it won't fire anymore. Then I gut it up and clean it. I dread that day every time!
 
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