dbuffington
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Hi Folks!
Please forgive the long message. However, I've stumbled across an interesting gun, and I'd appreciate your interpretation of the facts:
- It is a Winchester model 1886.
- The lower tang is very faintly marked with serial number 1xx7. According to multiple reference works, this serial number is from the year 1886, the first year of production.
- The upper tang is marked “- MODEL 1886-“. According to The Winchester Book (Madis), this is consistent with early production versions.
- Where the upper tang meets the receiver, the corner is squared, not rounded. According to The Winchester Book (Madis), this is consistent with serial numbers earlier than 7500.
- The receiver, lower tang and curved buttplate are case colored.
- The action works smoothly, but with considerable pressure required to push back the hammer. One of the locking bolts is scratched on several lines radiating from the lower screw head. The action functions properly. (However, as of this writing, it has not been test fired.)
- The barrel is blued.
- The barrel is faintly marked “45-90 WCF” caliber. According to multiple reference works, this caliber was offered in the first year of production.
- The barrel is marked:
- The barrel measures 25 1/4 inches from the end of the muzzle to the edge of the receiver.
- The barrel bore is clean and shiny with well-defined rifling. However, there is some very light texture on the bore surface.
- The front sight is a large blade sight. It is marked “Sheard” on one side and “Marble” (not “Marbles”) on the other.
- The rear sight is an elevator type adjustable for both windage and elevation. It is marked “Marble” also.
- The magazine extends to the end of the forearm, not to the end of the barrel. The magazine is equipped with a rounded end cap.
- The lever is equipped with a spring-loaded plunger. According to The Winchester Book (Madis), this is consistent with early production versions.
- The stock is a pistol-grip style with a triangular black insert. Both the stock and forearm are checkered. This is a light scratch in the forearm. Both the stock and forearm are made from heavily figured wood.
- The gun was purchased in its current condition in 1980 at a gun show in New York state. There is no way to verify this statement.
Now, for some subjective thoughts:
This is a stunningly beautiful gun. Even non-gun types tend to gasp when they see it. With the exception of the flaws mentioned above, the gun is in better-than-new condition, with vivid, deep case colors. The wood looks like it was lovingly given about 100 coats of fine wax. It’s not matte, not excessively glossy, but rich and warm, revealing every bit of the delicious figure.
Because of the faintness of some of the markings, I assume that the gun was refinished, and because the gun was reportedly purchased in New York, I contacted Turnbull Restoration to see if it was their work. Peter Koppmann at Turnbull checked their records back to 1989 and could not find any record of a Model 1886 with that serial number ever having been there.
Yes, I have requested a factory letter from the good folks at the Cody Firearms Museum. (Incidentally, I was sad to learn that Greg Ditzler, a researcher there, died last year.) However, it will be several weeks until the factory information arrives, and in the meantime, I have to wonder:
What the heck is this thing? Your thoughts are welcome.
Many thanks!
Dave
P.S. I'll post a photo as soon as possible.
Please forgive the long message. However, I've stumbled across an interesting gun, and I'd appreciate your interpretation of the facts:
- It is a Winchester model 1886.
- The lower tang is very faintly marked with serial number 1xx7. According to multiple reference works, this serial number is from the year 1886, the first year of production.
- The upper tang is marked “- MODEL 1886-“. According to The Winchester Book (Madis), this is consistent with early production versions.
- Where the upper tang meets the receiver, the corner is squared, not rounded. According to The Winchester Book (Madis), this is consistent with serial numbers earlier than 7500.
- The receiver, lower tang and curved buttplate are case colored.
- The action works smoothly, but with considerable pressure required to push back the hammer. One of the locking bolts is scratched on several lines radiating from the lower screw head. The action functions properly. (However, as of this writing, it has not been test fired.)
- The barrel is blued.
- The barrel is faintly marked “45-90 WCF” caliber. According to multiple reference works, this caliber was offered in the first year of production.
- The barrel is marked:
- MANUFACTURED BY THE -
- WINCHESTER REPEATING ARMS CO. NEW HAVEN. CONN. U.S.A. -
According to The Winchester Book (Madis), this is consistent with early production versions.- WINCHESTER REPEATING ARMS CO. NEW HAVEN. CONN. U.S.A. -
- The barrel measures 25 1/4 inches from the end of the muzzle to the edge of the receiver.
- The barrel bore is clean and shiny with well-defined rifling. However, there is some very light texture on the bore surface.
- The front sight is a large blade sight. It is marked “Sheard” on one side and “Marble” (not “Marbles”) on the other.
- The rear sight is an elevator type adjustable for both windage and elevation. It is marked “Marble” also.
- The magazine extends to the end of the forearm, not to the end of the barrel. The magazine is equipped with a rounded end cap.
- The lever is equipped with a spring-loaded plunger. According to The Winchester Book (Madis), this is consistent with early production versions.
- The stock is a pistol-grip style with a triangular black insert. Both the stock and forearm are checkered. This is a light scratch in the forearm. Both the stock and forearm are made from heavily figured wood.
- The gun was purchased in its current condition in 1980 at a gun show in New York state. There is no way to verify this statement.
Now, for some subjective thoughts:
This is a stunningly beautiful gun. Even non-gun types tend to gasp when they see it. With the exception of the flaws mentioned above, the gun is in better-than-new condition, with vivid, deep case colors. The wood looks like it was lovingly given about 100 coats of fine wax. It’s not matte, not excessively glossy, but rich and warm, revealing every bit of the delicious figure.
Because of the faintness of some of the markings, I assume that the gun was refinished, and because the gun was reportedly purchased in New York, I contacted Turnbull Restoration to see if it was their work. Peter Koppmann at Turnbull checked their records back to 1989 and could not find any record of a Model 1886 with that serial number ever having been there.
Yes, I have requested a factory letter from the good folks at the Cody Firearms Museum. (Incidentally, I was sad to learn that Greg Ditzler, a researcher there, died last year.) However, it will be several weeks until the factory information arrives, and in the meantime, I have to wonder:
What the heck is this thing? Your thoughts are welcome.
Many thanks!
Dave
P.S. I'll post a photo as soon as possible.
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