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I have been experimenting with Win 244 making a hard ball 45 ACP load. There isn't a lot of info on this powder out there so I thought I would share my results.
The pistols I tested it in are a Dan Wesson Heritage 1911, Government...And a Dan Wesson VBob
I was at an indoor 30yard range using a Labradar.
Components include:
1x fired Remington LP brass
WLP Primers
Berry's 230 grain Plated bullets
Win 244 powder
Seated to an OAL of 1.255" with a moderate crimp
Here I will just give you the results of the Government sized gun.
I first fired some Win Brown Box Military ball ammo to see what the Labradar found the speed to be. It reported an actual muzzle velocity average of 880fps with an SD of 11.4 fps. This is about 15 fps higher than what the box says =865 fps. Could be the gun, or my distance from the radar not quite right. Either way I call it close.
CAUTION: The following post includes loading data beyond or not covered by currently published maximums for this cartridge. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. Neither the writer, The Firing Line, nor the staff of TFL assume any liability for any damage or injury resulting from use of this information.
Starting at 5.0gr of 244:
25 Rounds
Avg: 761 Fps
SD: 28 FPS
5.3 gr 244
24 Rounds
Average: 791 fps
SD; 25 fps
5.5 gr 244
25 Rounds
Average: 843 fps
SD: 16 fps
5.6 gr 244
25 Rounds
Average: 861 fps
SD: 11 fps
5.7 gr 244
20 Rounds
Average 889 fps
SD: 10 fps
I stopped there. Hodgdon only has 2 bullets for this powder, neither of them are jacketed round nose, though they do list the FN hornady 230 grain bullet.
Obviously use this information at your own risk, and work up slowly, but perhaps this will give folks some place to start if you are loading 45 ACP with this powder and using the old 230 grain bullet.
One other comment, this powder is very clean. My muzzle was nearly spotless and the interior was very clean as compared to some of the older standard 45 powders.
As far as accuracy, my groups were tighter in the 860 fps range than any other including the Win brown box ball ammo.....at 30 yards.
The pistols I tested it in are a Dan Wesson Heritage 1911, Government...And a Dan Wesson VBob
I was at an indoor 30yard range using a Labradar.
Components include:
1x fired Remington LP brass
WLP Primers
Berry's 230 grain Plated bullets
Win 244 powder
Seated to an OAL of 1.255" with a moderate crimp
Here I will just give you the results of the Government sized gun.
I first fired some Win Brown Box Military ball ammo to see what the Labradar found the speed to be. It reported an actual muzzle velocity average of 880fps with an SD of 11.4 fps. This is about 15 fps higher than what the box says =865 fps. Could be the gun, or my distance from the radar not quite right. Either way I call it close.
CAUTION: The following post includes loading data beyond or not covered by currently published maximums for this cartridge. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. Neither the writer, The Firing Line, nor the staff of TFL assume any liability for any damage or injury resulting from use of this information.
Starting at 5.0gr of 244:
25 Rounds
Avg: 761 Fps
SD: 28 FPS
5.3 gr 244
24 Rounds
Average: 791 fps
SD; 25 fps
5.5 gr 244
25 Rounds
Average: 843 fps
SD: 16 fps
5.6 gr 244
25 Rounds
Average: 861 fps
SD: 11 fps
5.7 gr 244
20 Rounds
Average 889 fps
SD: 10 fps
I stopped there. Hodgdon only has 2 bullets for this powder, neither of them are jacketed round nose, though they do list the FN hornady 230 grain bullet.
Obviously use this information at your own risk, and work up slowly, but perhaps this will give folks some place to start if you are loading 45 ACP with this powder and using the old 230 grain bullet.
One other comment, this powder is very clean. My muzzle was nearly spotless and the interior was very clean as compared to some of the older standard 45 powders.
As far as accuracy, my groups were tighter in the 860 fps range than any other including the Win brown box ball ammo.....at 30 yards.