Will the real Republican Party resurface?

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Abndoc

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Now that the Republican Party has been (properly) spanked, does anyone think that they will get back to the root values they used to stand for?
The Democrats were not so much elected as the Republicans were rejected.
 
I don't know...but I have both sets of fingers and both sets of toes crossed hoping it is so. I would cross my eyes if I could, without getting a headache, if i thought it would help.:)
 
What was that quote from the bible?

"....Ye shall know them from their works...."

Yup, it seems that the REAL Republican party has been judged and found wanting....I'm reminded of another quote by P.T. Barnum about fooling some of the people all the time, etc......

As for me, I didn't leave the Republican party...it left me......

Perhaps most principled Republicans can look into the face on the autographed photo of GWB today, smile, give a big kiss and say, "...Thanks, George....".
 
57 Telecaster, I think that was Abraham Lincoln that said that. May be some kind of irony there.

Yup, it seems that the REAL Republican party has been judged and found wanting....I'm reminded of another quote by P.T. Barnum about fooling some of the people all the time, etc......
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badbob
 
The only thing that can save the Republican Party is us, and whether we pay attention during the PRIMARIES or not.

A good number of the defeated Republicans were RINO's, nothing more than tax and spend fiscal liberals that snuck into the Republican Party spouting social Conservatism (and many lying about that too).
In reality, they were Center Left Democrats in everything except for running on a couple of Republican hot button issues that got them in.

The Republican Party can be rebuilt into what we "almost" had in the 1994 "Contract with America" Party (less taxation, less government), but only if mainstream Americans choose to pay attention between elections and not just during them.

In other words, we're screwed.

Carter
 
I see that I am not alone in the sentiment, "I have not left the Republican Party, the Republican Party has left me." I consider my self to be a Conservative, Constitutionalist American. If there was a VIABLE party with those values, I'd be there. As I view our nation's political scene, I think that our Democratic Party citizens share our frustration with their party. Just as the GOP is no longer what we believed in, the same holds true on the other side of the aisle. We have both ended up with an incompeteant, largly corrupted,mealy mouthed, centrist conglomeration of self centered foolish blowhards who are enamored of themselves, their personal points of view and their own voices. To top it off, corruption, in one form or another is endemic.
 
I think that our Democratic Party citizens share our frustration with their party. Just as the GOP is no longer what we believed in, the same holds true on the other side of the aisle.
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Teg-
I don't agree. What the Dems accomplished on Tuesday was to lift a page directly out of Newt's 1994 Playbook. They ran Moderate Democrats for the most part and absolutely kicked butt as a result. Yes, the Brittle Left holds the few seats of real power, but I think you'll find Democratic voters are generally proud and hopeful that they'll take their party back from that group.

It's now up to the Republicans to relearn their history before '08, and that's gonna be real hard with what's coming. Dick Morris made some good points on FOX this AM: he predicts that the House will absolutely inundate the White House with investigations on things like oil leases, Haliburton sole source contracts and the like; that the liberal media will spin it up and that, by '08, the Republican Party will be so awash in scandal and imagined scandal that a Democratic White House is a lock.

I'll add to that prediction. I think, beginning January, one famous NY Senator will suddenly shift from sideline player to prime mover on popular bills such as ending oil company subsidies and raising the Min Wage.

Not a very optimistic future, I know. But the Republicans should have seen it coming. Especially the Republican-in-Chief. His intractability on key issues and his arrogance in public presentations has created this image that the Party is out of touch and being run by Big Government NeoCons. There's a whole lot of fence mending with the voters that needs to be done.
Rich
 
get back to the root values they used to stand for?
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Values? Who are you kidding? These folks have only one goal, and it's staying in power. It's gotten so hard to tell the difference between them that I need a playbook. They should be required to die their head when they're sworn in - and I'll accept blue for Dimocrats and red for Repiglicans - and they'd have to maintain the color for their term in office. Independents could be purple.
 
Teg-
I don't agree. What the Dems accomplished on Tuesday was to lift a page directly out of Newt's 1994 Playbook. They ran Moderate Democrats for the most part and absolutely kicked butt as a result. Yes, the Brittle Left holds the few seats of real power, but I think you'll find Democratic voters are generally proud and hopeful that they'll take their party back from that group.
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Rich, you are right on regarding run to the right, govern to the left ideology used on this election.

But the Democrat voters hoping to pull the party back from the left wing socialists such as Pelosi, Schumer, Reid, etc. will be sorely disappointed.

They will be as frustrated as we Republicans with being told what we wanted, but their moderates comprimising to bend to the party leadership's game plan for more and more ridiculous gun control laws, illegal emigration assistance, and tax increases.

The only reason these moderates made it in to take over power, is the normal, non-neocon Republicans were frightened mightily by such crap as the Military Commissions Act, Patriot Act, illegal wiretapping, and being seen as people who think torture is just fine and dandy, and that snatching a citizen up and denying him counsel is a good idea for "preserving freedom".

We voted out our own party, in order to try to clean the extremists out. The only way this nation will survive, is if the Democrat voters are willing to do the same, and vote out the Pelosi, Schumer, and Reid types who represent the opposite of what most Democrats want.

It will be a very interesting two years if we survive it.
 
Nambla

the North American Marlon Brando Lookalikes?

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I've never registered as either R or D as I have plenty of disagreements with both. But I heard this guy on the radio today, and he was making some sense. Might be worth a closer look for many of us here. Or not. Won't know until I look closer myself.

"Conservatives Betrayed"
 
But the Republicans should have seen it coming. Especially the Republican-in-Chief. His intractability on key issues and his arrogance in public presentations has created this image that the Party is out of touch and being run by Big Government NeoCons.
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That is really the heart of the matter, IMO.
 
They will, yes. Esp. after a dose of the Dems for 2 years. It might take some time, but fiscal conservatives with a populist/protectionist bent will make a comeback. Would be a good time for Pat Buchanan.
 
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