Start Bombarding them nationwide with bogus registration forms!! Lets break their registration scheme with sheer volume of mail. Lets all send ~36 bucks (~120 registration forms each) worth of registration forms to them. Lets bury them so deep in false forms they won't know which ones are the legitimate ones!
Will Someone IN California Please post an AW registration form on line so we may:
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You've got to remember that without the $20.00 registration fee it will be tossed into the "round file". 120 forms x $20.00 = too much dough for me!
Although, if they have to send you a letter stating that you "forgot" the fee, then maybe we can sap some of their energy and time, and some of the tax payers' money...
Maybe we can make them scream, or at least squirm a lot...
That would be worth the postage!
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John/az
"When freedom is at stake, your silence is not golden, it's yellow..." RKBA!
See The Legacy of Gun Control film at: www.cphv.com
Do it for the children...
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Although, if they have to send you a letter stating that you "forgot" the fee, then maybe we can sap some of their energy and time, and some of the tax payers' money...
Maybe we can make them scream, or at least squirm a lot...
That would be worth the postage!
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John/az
"When freedom is at stake, your silence is not golden, it's yellow..." RKBA!
See The Legacy of Gun Control film at: www.cphv.com
Do it for the children...
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Bartholomew Roberts
Moderator
Better yet - registration doesn't work unless they can distinguish between who has guns and who doesn't.
Register dead relatives. Register live politicians. Register Perata. Register Feinstein. Register anybody you can think of with bogus weapons (I am sure we can all think of appropriate sources of serial numbers).
If the registration lists are clogged with inaccurate information, they cannot be used for confiscation.
$20 isn't that much to pay if we all registered just one rifle. Wouldn't it be worth $20 just to see Sarah Bardy explaining how "Really I don't even know what an AR-15 is" to authorities come confiscation time?
Register dead relatives. Register live politicians. Register Perata. Register Feinstein. Register anybody you can think of with bogus weapons (I am sure we can all think of appropriate sources of serial numbers).
If the registration lists are clogged with inaccurate information, they cannot be used for confiscation.
$20 isn't that much to pay if we all registered just one rifle. Wouldn't it be worth $20 just to see Sarah Bardy explaining how "Really I don't even know what an AR-15 is" to authorities come confiscation time?
Bartholomew Roberts
Moderator
P.S. - If you can't afford 20 bucks, send in the forms anyway - they still have to be processed and round-filed.
Every bogus form that has to be round-filed provides that extra opportunity for a legitimate form to go with it.
Every bogus form that has to be round-filed provides that extra opportunity for a legitimate form to go with it.
Once I find the form, I'm going to do this. It is such a great idea.
Bart, think you can get some of you TX friends to mail some in? Just pick a city in CA and make up an address.
madison
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bartholomew Roberts:
P.S. - If you can't afford 20 bucks, send in the forms anyway - they still have to be processed and round-filed.
Every bogus form that has to be round-filed provides that extra opportunity for a legitimate form to go with it.[/quote]
Bart, think you can get some of you TX friends to mail some in? Just pick a city in CA and make up an address.
madison
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bartholomew Roberts:
P.S. - If you can't afford 20 bucks, send in the forms anyway - they still have to be processed and round-filed.
Every bogus form that has to be round-filed provides that extra opportunity for a legitimate form to go with it.[/quote]
hmmm.... how do you think you are going to go about this? Register non-existant guns to yourself? Register non-existant guns to non-existant people?
btw... the concept is sound. Massachusetts recently asked GOAL to tell it's members to stop applying to the Firearms Records Bureau for their personal records. They claimed it was interfering with the processing of new CCW permits (WOW!)
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>from GOAL
Criminal History Systems Board Cries Uncle
On May 18, entirely without publicity, we made the state's form for requesting a list of the firearms registered in your name available on our Filing Cabinet page. Apparently, there's a lot of curiosity out there among Massachusetts gun owners -- so many of these forms have been filed in the past month that the state Criminal History Systems Board contacted GOAL to ask them to call off their members. They complained that it's cutting into the time they need to issue firearms licenses.
Can you imagine that!
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"[Even if there would be] few tears shed if and when the Second Amendment is held to guarantee nothing more than the state National Guard, this would simply show that the Founders were right when they feared that some future generation might wish to abandon liberties that they considered essential, and so sought to protect those liberties in a Bill of Rights. We may tolerate the abridgement of property rights and the elimination of a right to bear arms; but we should not pretend that these are not reductions of rights." -- Justice Scalia 1998
btw... the concept is sound. Massachusetts recently asked GOAL to tell it's members to stop applying to the Firearms Records Bureau for their personal records. They claimed it was interfering with the processing of new CCW permits (WOW!)
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>from GOAL
Criminal History Systems Board Cries Uncle
On May 18, entirely without publicity, we made the state's form for requesting a list of the firearms registered in your name available on our Filing Cabinet page. Apparently, there's a lot of curiosity out there among Massachusetts gun owners -- so many of these forms have been filed in the past month that the state Criminal History Systems Board contacted GOAL to ask them to call off their members. They complained that it's cutting into the time they need to issue firearms licenses.
Can you imagine that!
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"[Even if there would be] few tears shed if and when the Second Amendment is held to guarantee nothing more than the state National Guard, this would simply show that the Founders were right when they feared that some future generation might wish to abandon liberties that they considered essential, and so sought to protect those liberties in a Bill of Rights. We may tolerate the abridgement of property rights and the elimination of a right to bear arms; but we should not pretend that these are not reductions of rights." -- Justice Scalia 1998
I plan on sending in a blank form with NEVER written rather boldly accross it. If they start sending them back to me since I am out of state, then I will box up a hundred or so SASE with blank forms inside and send them to a Californian to mail within the state so the postmark is from California and they will have to open it to find out if it is legit or not. Come on people, where there is a will there is a way. The object is to make it unbearable for the DOJ and stop and or make the registration process so expensive that it becomes cost prohibitive.
Let's call it Operation Phuk Finestein.
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Let's call it Operation Phuk Finestein.
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Christopher II
New member
This is evil! I love it!
Count me in.
Later,
Chris
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Count me in.
Later,
Chris
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"TV what do I see, tell me who to believe, what's the use of autonomy when a button does it all??" - Incubus, Idiot Box
USP45,
In answer to your question - Yes.
Register non-existant guns to a fake person or a dead relative at a fake CA address.
If we can get this action going, trust me, the feds could really have problems and would want to reconsider their plans.
I plan on using my granddad's friends and their old addresses. I'll just put a city and state/zip in CA.
The first time, I will not send money. Let 'em waste their time. The second time, I may send some money for 1 or 2. The money will be by money order(don't use fake name and send personal check, duh).
Boy it would be a great way to let out some furstration.
madison
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by USP45:
hmmm.... how do you think you are going to go about this? Register non-existant guns to yourself? Register non-existant guns to non-existant people?
btw... the concept is sound. Massachusetts recently asked GOAL to tell it's members to stop applying to the Firearms Records Bureau for their personal records. They claimed it was interfering with the processing of new CCW permits (WOW!)
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In answer to your question - Yes.
Register non-existant guns to a fake person or a dead relative at a fake CA address.
If we can get this action going, trust me, the feds could really have problems and would want to reconsider their plans.
I plan on using my granddad's friends and their old addresses. I'll just put a city and state/zip in CA.
The first time, I will not send money. Let 'em waste their time. The second time, I may send some money for 1 or 2. The money will be by money order(don't use fake name and send personal check, duh).
Boy it would be a great way to let out some furstration.
madison
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by USP45:
hmmm.... how do you think you are going to go about this? Register non-existant guns to yourself? Register non-existant guns to non-existant people?
btw... the concept is sound. Massachusetts recently asked GOAL to tell it's members to stop applying to the Firearms Records Bureau for their personal records. They claimed it was interfering with the processing of new CCW permits (WOW!)
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Bartholomew Roberts
Moderator
madison46 - You bet I will pass it on to local gun owners. We have a whole slew of phased plasma rifles in the 40-watt range that we have just been achin' to register. If you can just get me the forms, I can take care of the rest.
I'll email you with some thoughts I have on it so we can game out a strategy.
USP45 - Register existing guns to real people. Register non-existing guns to real people. Register existing guns to non-existing people. Mix and match as you like.
All the resources are there to provide some very authentic looking registration forms for the state of California.
Bonus points - if you send any type of payment (even in small amounts), the state of California will have to establish an audit trail for what was done with your money (lest some angry taxpayer ask why he got his application back; but no money).
I don't even think we need the actual DOJ form.
I'll email you with some thoughts I have on it so we can game out a strategy.
USP45 - Register existing guns to real people. Register non-existing guns to real people. Register existing guns to non-existing people. Mix and match as you like.
All the resources are there to provide some very authentic looking registration forms for the state of California.
Bonus points - if you send any type of payment (even in small amounts), the state of California will have to establish an audit trail for what was done with your money (lest some angry taxpayer ask why he got his application back; but no money).
I don't even think we need the actual DOJ form.
This is what's been happening in Canada. people are picking names out of the phone book, prominent politicians, dead people, etc. Many times, they pay the required fee to further complicate the issue. The folks in Ottawa are quite upset!
It's the old story about the Leprechaun finding the pot o' gold for the boy. The boy marked the spot with a ribbon on a nearby tree. Whilst he went to get a shovel to dig up the gold, the Leprechaun tied a ribbon on *every* tree in the area.
Can you say "Smoke Screen"?
JB
It's the old story about the Leprechaun finding the pot o' gold for the boy. The boy marked the spot with a ribbon on a nearby tree. Whilst he went to get a shovel to dig up the gold, the Leprechaun tied a ribbon on *every* tree in the area.
Can you say "Smoke Screen"?
JB
I forgot who posted this, but it was from a while back. There may be changes to the form since then.
http://homepages.go.com/~bradwong/aw.pdf
http://homepages.go.com/~bradwong/aw.pdf
Here is a list of California addresses. 
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/acsframeset7text.htm
http://www.senate.ca.gov/~newsen/senators/senators.htp
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"[Even if there would be] few tears shed if and when the Second Amendment is held to guarantee nothing more than the state National Guard, this would simply show that the Founders were right when they feared that some future generation might wish to abandon liberties that they considered essential, and so sought to protect those liberties in a Bill of Rights. We may tolerate the abridgement of property rights and the elimination of a right to bear arms; but we should not pretend that these are not reductions of rights." -- Justice Scalia 1998
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http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/acsframeset7text.htm
http://www.senate.ca.gov/~newsen/senators/senators.htp
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~USP
"[Even if there would be] few tears shed if and when the Second Amendment is held to guarantee nothing more than the state National Guard, this would simply show that the Founders were right when they feared that some future generation might wish to abandon liberties that they considered essential, and so sought to protect those liberties in a Bill of Rights. We may tolerate the abridgement of property rights and the elimination of a right to bear arms; but we should not pretend that these are not reductions of rights." -- Justice Scalia 1998
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DialONE911
New member
Web based phone directories like www.555-1212.com or www.anywho.com can be useful resources for legit names and addresses. It is pretty mean to do that to some unsuspecting sheeple.
But, the time to send in these "registrations" would be Jan 2, 2001. The Gov. would certainly have to take pity on people who only missed the deadline by 2 days.
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But, the time to send in these "registrations" would be Jan 2, 2001. The Gov. would certainly have to take pity on people who only missed the deadline by 2 days.
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Just a couple of technical questions.
It appears that this is a 2 sided form - front and back - not a 2 page form, correct?
Is white the appropriate paper color?
Any idea what the weight of the paper stock is?
I'd like to do as professional a job of reproducing these forms as possible. I wouldn't want to make it too easy for them to identify the ringers.
It appears that this is a 2 sided form - front and back - not a 2 page form, correct?
Is white the appropriate paper color?
Any idea what the weight of the paper stock is?
I'd like to do as professional a job of reproducing these forms as possible. I wouldn't want to make it too easy for them to identify the ringers.
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