Sidetracker
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I know police entry teams use shotguns to open doors and I'm wondering what type of ammo they use? If it's special LEO ammo, would regular slugs work in an emergency?
Will slugs open doors?
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If I recall correctly those "entry" slugs are LEO only, and are designed specifically to break down doors. Interestingly, those handy-dandy battering rams and other non-firearm entry tools can be purchased by anyone.
Regular slugs would probably do the job, albeit less efficiently. I think the purpose of the entry slugs is to speed along the job - to bust the door down as quickly as possible so the BG in the room doesn't have a chance to grab a gun or flush the drugs.
Regular slugs would probably do the job, albeit less efficiently. I think the purpose of the entry slugs is to speed along the job - to bust the door down as quickly as possible so the BG in the room doesn't have a chance to grab a gun or flush the drugs.
Never used any myself, but I believe dZ is right, breaching rounds are powdered lead so that they have maximum effect on the lock -- while minimizing damage to bystanders or persons behind the door. Breaching shotguns also use a special muzzle attachment that allows: (1) more secure placement of the muzzle on the door or lock (looks like teeth on a muzzle brake) and (2) gases to be diverted away from the blast point.
IIRC Paul Kim's website has a good view of a Remington 870 with Surefire's new handgrip-light and a breaching attachment.
Justin
IIRC Paul Kim's website has a good view of a Remington 870 with Surefire's new handgrip-light and a breaching attachment.
Justin
Yes they will.
Breaching rounds can be pre-fragmented lead, shot or ceramic and are intended to disintegrate on impact while still fracturing the hardened steel door bolt. The muzzle distance is so short (1-3 inches) that even shot loads act like a slug except for the fragmentation after impact.
The problem with slugs is, if you miss the bolt, they tend to rattle around in the room you are trying to enter causing great uneasiness among the room's occupants!
Mikey
Breaching rounds can be pre-fragmented lead, shot or ceramic and are intended to disintegrate on impact while still fracturing the hardened steel door bolt. The muzzle distance is so short (1-3 inches) that even shot loads act like a slug except for the fragmentation after impact.
The problem with slugs is, if you miss the bolt, they tend to rattle around in the room you are trying to enter causing great uneasiness among the room's occupants!
Mikey
Sidetracker,
We were sighting in our slug guns last fall. A friend of mine put on a new scope. Turns out it was high and he shot the homemade metal target holder. The slug fragmented and shreded the paper target. Looked like someone attacked it with a weedwacker.
You shoot a bolt with a normal slug at close range you'll probably be going to the hopspital or the funeral home.
Be safe,
Shok
We were sighting in our slug guns last fall. A friend of mine put on a new scope. Turns out it was high and he shot the homemade metal target holder. The slug fragmented and shreded the paper target. Looked like someone attacked it with a weedwacker.
You shoot a bolt with a normal slug at close range you'll probably be going to the hopspital or the funeral home.
Be safe,
Shok
Not slugs - too much penetration.
I did go to a class a little while back where we were told that 00 buck could be used in a pinch (If no breaching rounds were available) Even then the muzzle has to be nearly on top of the bolt to be separated, at a downward angle (45 degrees) and we were told to "double tap" it. No, there was no demostration or trial. And I have't tried it on my own so if you get hurt trying it, don't try suing me - I'm tellin' you not to do it. This is a last ditch, desperation, effort...
I did go to a class a little while back where we were told that 00 buck could be used in a pinch (If no breaching rounds were available) Even then the muzzle has to be nearly on top of the bolt to be separated, at a downward angle (45 degrees) and we were told to "double tap" it. No, there was no demostration or trial. And I have't tried it on my own so if you get hurt trying it, don't try suing me - I'm tellin' you not to do it. This is a last ditch, desperation, effort...
Breaching shells are not loaded with powdered lead. Can you imagine the screaming about the toxic lead hazard? 
Most breaching shells that I know of are loaded with compressed powdered copper or a mixture of copper and clay or powdered steel and clay.
They are often called "Avon" shells. You know, like "Knock, knock, Avon calling". Royal Arms calls theirs "Clayvon".
Most breaching shells that I know of are loaded with compressed powdered copper or a mixture of copper and clay or powdered steel and clay.
They are often called "Avon" shells. You know, like "Knock, knock, Avon calling". Royal Arms calls theirs "Clayvon".