After looking at another post on the Kahr P9, this question occurred to me. I handled a P9 at a recent gun show and it felt great. Very confortable, and VERY thin. All I kept thinking was why Glock doesn't expand their existing single-stack .45 to the 9mm realm. I think this would be a great idea. Has anybody heard that Glock might do this? I would buy one in a second.
Why won't Glock make a single stack 9mm?
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by rock_jock:
After looking at another post on the Kahr P9, this question occurred to me. I handled a P9 at a recent gun show and it felt great. Very confortable, and VERY thin. All I kept thinking was why Glock doesn't expand their existing single-stack .45 to the 9mm realm. I think this would be a great idea. Has anybody heard that Glock might do this? I would buy one in a second. [/quote]
Write Glock or call Glock with this suggestion. If enough people suggest a single stack 9mm, it might happen?
After looking at another post on the Kahr P9, this question occurred to me. I handled a P9 at a recent gun show and it felt great. Very confortable, and VERY thin. All I kept thinking was why Glock doesn't expand their existing single-stack .45 to the 9mm realm. I think this would be a great idea. Has anybody heard that Glock might do this? I would buy one in a second. [/quote]
Write Glock or call Glock with this suggestion. If enough people suggest a single stack 9mm, it might happen?
That would mean a new design/design change just for the US, in a pistol that is sold around the world as is...
Why would they want to?
If, perhaps, they weren't already at max production capacity and still behind in filling orders...
I'd buy a Kahr sized Glock myself but just can't see them doing it anytime soon.
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Make mine lean, mean, and 9x19!
Why would they want to?
If, perhaps, they weren't already at max production capacity and still behind in filling orders...
I'd buy a Kahr sized Glock myself but just can't see them doing it anytime soon.
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Make mine lean, mean, and 9x19!
Yeah Baby, right on the money. Because Gaston is too busy sleeping. Look how long it took them to release the G36. If they do a single stack I doubt it he will get it right, e.g. why on earth design the G36 with that clunky unfinished magazine baseplate-what are ya thinkin man! Just gimme a grip-like the Kahr and the soon to be Steyr S. I hope in time Steyr will corner the market here. Now,they are a responsive company. The glocks are indeed to fat, sure you can conceal it, but we need a slim 26. The kahr is only 22mm wide. The slimmest glock is 28.5 they have miles to go.
Personally, I'm still surprised that Glock brought out a single-stack .45, because the double-stack magazine configuration is so much a part of the basic identity of the Glock pistol.
I assume that any decision about a 9mm single-stack would depend on the success of the G36. FWIW, the G36s at the local gunshop in my area have been slow sellers. G30s sell a lot more quickly, at least around here.
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I assume that any decision about a 9mm single-stack would depend on the success of the G36. FWIW, the G36s at the local gunshop in my area have been slow sellers. G30s sell a lot more quickly, at least around here.
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The Scandinavian
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What is the G36 actually for?
Does anyone feel that the fact that it is 0.14" slimmer than the G30 is significant?
Is that worth the drop in capacity from 10 to 6?
Am I missing something here?? I could see the argument for a single stack Glock, if it were significantly slimmer than the 'regular' version, but really, as it stands, what's the difference?
Does anyone feel that the fact that it is 0.14" slimmer than the G30 is significant?
Is that worth the drop in capacity from 10 to 6?
Am I missing something here?? I could see the argument for a single stack Glock, if it were significantly slimmer than the 'regular' version, but really, as it stands, what's the difference?
Regarding the single stack glock 36:
I think the grip is too long from back to front. they should make the grip similar in size to the Kahr or Steyr. Gaston Glock must have hugh hands and thinks that everyone else does as well.
I always wondered why they couldn't have adjustable grips.
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I think the grip is too long from back to front. they should make the grip similar in size to the Kahr or Steyr. Gaston Glock must have hugh hands and thinks that everyone else does as well.
I always wondered why they couldn't have adjustable grips.
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BrokenArrow
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The G36 is OK (would rather have 10-15 in G19 or 10-13 in a 40/357), but the barrel/chamber are way too thin for me to feel comfortable with them.
If they thin the barrel/chamber on a 9mm the same way, I would pass on that too.
IMO, a better way to thin the grips would have been to go to metal magazines. I would not have designed a pistol that required the trigger to be pulled to strip either, so what the heck do I know?
If they thin the barrel/chamber on a 9mm the same way, I would pass on that too.
IMO, a better way to thin the grips would have been to go to metal magazines. I would not have designed a pistol that required the trigger to be pulled to strip either, so what the heck do I know?
shiroikuma Anchorage AK
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Well I just bought a P9 because dang it that's what I always wanted from glock!!!! a single stack nine that was light and would fit in a pocket and ...thin!!!! I like the glock trigger more though...sigh... 
shiro
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parabellum
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Patience, gentlemen. The slimline 9mm and .40s are coming. Patience. Remember, Glock introduces 2 or 3 new models every year...
I don't think that making a single stack Glock never crossed the minds of designers, but there are several problems:
1) Would there be a sufficient market for it
in the military and LE?
Gun like this would not be offered for civilian sales in US because its size and weight will not meat importation requirments set by GCA'68. The only way it would be imported is if they will make it on full or medium size frame, which defeats the purpouse of such a gun.
Making this gun for civilian markets other then US will not justify the cost of development because of small number of potential buyers due to restrictive laws.
1) Would there be a sufficient market for it
in the military and LE?
Gun like this would not be offered for civilian sales in US because its size and weight will not meat importation requirments set by GCA'68. The only way it would be imported is if they will make it on full or medium size frame, which defeats the purpouse of such a gun.
Making this gun for civilian markets other then US will not justify the cost of development because of small number of potential buyers due to restrictive laws.
parabellum
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I think a Glock with the 19/23/32 frame size, but thinner, would be a great seller. How much would you care to wager that Herr Gaston's design engineers could figure out a way to fit nine, or maybe in the legal limit ten cartridges of 9mm in a pistol that size? How much are Glock HiCaps going for these days? Are they going to get cheaper? If all you can get are 10 round mags for a 19 or 23, why wouldn't you want a slimmer pistol that holds the same number of cartridges. A decade or so ago, this was less of a consideration. But with the '90s proliferation of states allowing concealed carry, this is one of the key advantages of a pistol like the Glock.
As for the vagaries of the importation laws and GCA '68, Glock managed to get the 26/27/32 in the country, didn't they?
Moreover, I would probably buy a full sized Glock 9mm that was single stack, or pseudo single stack. Glock could definitely manage to get ten 9 mm cartridges in a slimline fullsized 9. I think it would make for a very secure grip on the pistol, and would be easier to conceal with certain types of carry, with IWB immediately coming to mind.
Bring 'em on. I'll buy 'em!
As for the vagaries of the importation laws and GCA '68, Glock managed to get the 26/27/32 in the country, didn't they?
Moreover, I would probably buy a full sized Glock 9mm that was single stack, or pseudo single stack. Glock could definitely manage to get ten 9 mm cartridges in a slimline fullsized 9. I think it would make for a very secure grip on the pistol, and would be easier to conceal with certain types of carry, with IWB immediately coming to mind.
Bring 'em on. I'll buy 'em!
parabellum, i agree with you completely. if glock can fit 10 rounds in a G19 sized gun but single stack or at least a thinner magazine making the whole gun noticably thinner i think it would sell great. it would do good in civilian sales in the US especially in states with CCP.
shiroikuma Anchorage AK
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Ohh man I just shot mine for the fits time.. buy a P9 you can always cut the grip down to MK9 mag size if you need it smaller... WOW.. recoil is really light..trigger great.. NO jams in 115 rounds and I forgot to lube it This pistol is soo light I can't believe it and it's accurate enough for defensive shooting. I put a houge handall jr rubber grip sleeve on mine and I think it improves the grip 55% 
THIS is the CCW 9mm. God I love my CZ-75 but it huge and heavy compared to the P9
I'm done for now...
shiro
This pistol is soo light I can't believe it and it's accurate enough for defensive shooting. I put a houge handall jr rubber grip sleeve on mine and I think it improves the grip 55% THIS is the CCW 9mm. God I love my CZ-75 but it huge and heavy compared to the P9I'm done for now...
shiro