Why is the 6.5 Creedmore being pushed so hard?

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Creek Henry

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Ballistically it is slightly inferior to the 260 Rem and probably not an order of magnitute more accurate. But, so far, I see articles on it just about every month in the gun mags I get. Gun writers just go on about its efficiency and how wonderfully it takes game.

When the 260 Rem was introduced it was pretty much ignored. A few writers liked it but kept talking about how they wished the 6.5x55 had been more popular instead.

So, why is the 6.5 the love of gun writers' lives but the 260 is just so-so?
 
It could be unintentional or it could be the product of a coordinated advertizing campaign. We don’t have the behind the scenes outlook, so we don’t know what is causing this bubble.

We do know that gunwriters are shills for the industry, paid to write promotional articles, all of which are geared to raise revenue in one way or another. They get fully paid “writer symposiums”, plant tours, and fully paid hunting trips. These hunting trips cost between $5000-$10000 dollars when you cost in time, food, hotel, guns, gear, guides. So if in the articles you read, if you see some poor animal killed by a grinning gunwriter you know the article was financed by an entity with big pockets. (i.e a Corporation)

As for the 6.5 Creedmoor cartridge, it probably is a fine cartridge. I don’t know if it that much better than a 6.5-08 (which started as a wild cat, not a proprietary round) and it will be interesting to see if it avoids going on the ash heap of history.

As for it being the love of their lives, well everything that they get paid for is the best that every was or will be. Have you not noticed that is true of all the cartridges, firearms, powders, bullets, gear, in all these magazines?
 
I just bought a 6.5 Creedmoor barrel for one of my Savage actions. While the 260 does do some things a little better,the main reason I went with it was the brass. 260 Remington brass just doesn't last from everything I have heard and read,and I handload for every caliber that I shoot.
Everyone that I know with the Creedmoor gets great life from their brass,and the caliber performs really close to the 260 Rem,and the 6.5x47 Lapua in all areas.

Some calibers catch on,and others just hang around for a while and then disappear after a few years with the mainstream shooters.
 
It I didn't have a 6.5 caliber rifle, I'd probably lean toward the 6.5X284. But, I got a great deal from a buddy on a Ruger in 260 Remington. The more I used it the more I liked it. And I guess that the serious long range shooters also like the 260, since many of them use it these days. As for me, that 260 seems to do most everything that my 270 did and does it with less recoil. The Creedmore has about the same performance, so I guess brass availability would be important as to which round you chose. But Lapua is now making 260 brass, or so I hear, so why would you want the Creedmore. For me, looking long term, I've already decided that if I ever rebarrel my Ruger I'll go with the 260 AI.

And I'm shooting the heck out of my Remington 260 brass and haven't had any problems or failures yet.
 
260 AI you say... that sounds like a great idea actually.

I think you guys are right about writers being shills. But, since print is not a cash cow any more (and newpapers are slowly dying), someone has to pay the bills. It's also cheap advertising for the big gun/ammo companies. $10k is chump change compared to buying and creating a full page monthly spread in any of the bigger gun mags. That can't be cheap nor as in depth as a good, multipage article is.

I guess it's just weird to me that a seemingly redudant cartidge is getting the hooply the ones it 'replaces' did not. Must be market timing also since a new WSM cartridge is no longer coming out every month.
 
I dunno...but its the most accurate gun I own. Have you ever shot one? Might change your tune... If you're near me I'll let you shoot mine and see what you think.

Savage predator hunter 1-max in 6.5CM
 
Its hard to make a new round stick around. Look at the other fairly recent cartridges that are going extinct. I guess the ammo companies are getting the gun writters push this round so it will sell.
 
"If you ever have to ask the why of a thing, then the answer is almost certainly "money".

This is not necessarily a bad thing...... The Market will sort it out, over time, despite the incessant obfusication of the ad-men.

If I had to choose between the two, I'd take the .260 Rem ..... a bit more velocity with the .260, and brass would be easier to form from .243, 7-08, or .308, I think.
 
I would suggest that the best one to hang on to is either the 6.5x55 or the 260 rem. (6.5x308). With the 260, if you ever run out of ammo, you can always reload with either 243 or 308 brass.
 
I dunno...but its the most accurate gun I own. Have you ever shot one?
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No I have not and accuracy seems to be its real strong suit. You can't argue with success if it is all that. But, I heard that about the 260 as well... just not as much. I guess it was a wildcat for so long, it was already old hat when it finally got produced commercially.

And, I appreciate the shooting offer. I'm not in the market at the moment. I was planning on getting a 260 but then I inherited an M1 Garand that I just dumped money in to for a scout scope set up, cheek pad, gas regulator, 5 round clips, etc.

This thread isn't a rant really but its like the day you notice the 4 or 5 different TV commercials Geico is running (Cavemen, money with eyeballs, Gecko, etc)... once you notice seeing something constantly, it kinda makes you wonder what's going on!
 
You can use .308 brass for the creedmoor too. I think it has a longer barrel life than the .260 due to slightly lower velocities and something about the 30 degree case neck being beneficial. I'll have to admit I wasn't looking for a creedmoor when I bought it. I was at Dick's looking at a savage .308 with a threaded barrel and the accustock, but could never get a sales rep after waiting an hour and paging them multiple times so I went to vans and they had the 6.5 CM. i'd remember reading a few things about it while looking at some long range articles. Liked the way it was set up so I bought it.

The "have you ever shot one" wasn't a challenge, this rifle is just so sweet to shoot, and scary accurate. I'm used to pulling a rifle out of a box and with the first loads shooting 1.5-2" groups, but this thing has been sub 1" groups with everything I fed it. A "bad" group is 3/4". Virtually no recoil. The first time I shot it (zeroing the scope) I thought I'd gotten a bad rifle because there was only 1 hole from the first two shots. I'm sure the .260 and 6.5 loopy could pull this off too, but I don't have those calibers. And savage had a bit to do with it with their rifle. Haven't gotten to shoot it at my buddy's 600-1000m range yet, but now that deer season is over we're planning on taking it out.
 
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