Why can't people learn from history?

Dangus

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Why is it that we've been as a species in the same situations so repeatedly, and yet we always have to find out for ourselves. Why can't we learn some lessons from history and evolve a bit?

Take for example this quote from All the Way Down the Slippery Slope: Gun Prohibition in England and Some Lesson

"In the period leading up to the Glorious Revolution, the Stuart monarchs adopted a radical policy of personal disarmament toward those who politically threatened their royal prerogatives. This included the militia of armed freemen as well as direct political rivals. Through a series of parliamentary enactments, they tried registration of possession, registration of sales, hunting restrictions,[16] possession bans ostensibly aimed at controlling illegal hunting, restrictions on personal arms possessed by the militia,[17] warrantless searches, and confiscations.[18] By 1689, the Stuart monarchs had succeeded, not at full disarmament, but at alienating their "allies" as well as their opponents and losing their throne in a bloodless revolution."

The rest is at:
http://www.2ndlawlib.org/journals/okslip.html#h7

We are there, right now, and so few appreciate it. You know what the people of that era did about it? They forced the scum that were oppressing them to sign the magna-carte.

There's been a lot of talk about revolution, but still, it's not realistic at this point. What we need is our own magne-carte, and we've already got it in the constitution. The problem is, how do we safegaurd from it happening again? We'd have the same system we had when this country was formed, and look how it's ended up. We need a better organizational system for the government, and we need incentives for the legislature to stop passing a constant stream of new laws. There's something like 29,000 laws in this country, and yet ignorance is no excuse in court.

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The Alcove

I twist the facts until they tell the truth. -Some intellectual sadist

The Bill of Rights is a document of brilliance, a document of wisdom, and it is the ultimate law, spoken or not, for the very concept of a society that holds liberty above the desire for ever greater power. -Me
 
It's very simple.... just make it the law that if the SC rules a law unconstitutional.... all those who voted for it get the death penalty. Have the SC justices impeachable by an independent grand jury and tried by a jury trial for making law instead of interpreting it, or ruling a law constitutional when it was not. Same penalty to apply if convicted.



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Richard

The debate is not about guns,
but rather who has the ultimate power to rule,
the People or Government.
RKBA!
 
I think our best defense is a good offense (haven't I heard that one in a movie?). The NRA is our best defense against the gov't besides a militia. If it has to come to that then I think we are all prepared to do it. Do me a favor and if you are not a member of the NRA, JOIN NOW!! Your money is important and the organization is pretty much the only effort against the liberal freaks of the gov't banning our right to bear arms. Protest all you can and make your voice known by petitioning, etc.

I think a misnomer about LEO's is that they are anti-gun, but working in the field I know that probably over 80% of LEO's are pro-gun. Most that I know are. Being that we work in the field among the lowest of low people, we know what laws will work and ones that don't. Believe me I am not going to enforce some law that says John Q. Citizen is breaking the law by having a gun in his home. If guns are banned, then we will be adding millions of law abiding citizens to the criminal list and there is no way to enforce that. Neither am I going to try to take that gun from him, and if I were him I wouldn't go down without a fight.

Remember...treat a man like a million dollars but have a secret plan to kill him in the back of your mind.
 
People can't learn from history if they're too busy with real priorities. Somebody's got to watch Monday Night Football or have a few shots at the neighborhood bar. Somebody got to be a soccer mom or watch TV at night. Somebody got to fill up our beaches and loaf in the sun. Heck, there's just more important things to do! Sure... like let our freedoms slip away into the hands of government.
 
People don't learn from history because (1) most of them don't read it, (2) those who do, many of them don't believe 'it' can happen again, and (3) the devolution of liberty into socialism and then anarchy is probably a function of human emotion and behavior. IMHO.

The freedom movement has always been a minority movement, and the fight for freedom is never over.

Regards from AZ
 
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