Why aren't ejection ports being.....

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milled deeper to allow for more positive shucking of empties?"
Some pistols are, some not, regardless of price....I can't believe why this has to be a mild custom job when something like this can be done at the factory by a milled setting incurring no expense....
Some typical jams occur because of the tight port and it doesn't make sense to me....Gunsmiths & armorers out there, what's the story????:confused:
 
Ejection Ports

I believe it's because the port opening weakens the slide, and the smaller the opening the stronger the slide. At least that's what I was taught.
 


I don't have any issues. But, I don't have any 100 year old auto pistol designs either.....

Dude get a Glock!



-tINY

 
port lowering

Dear Sir:
At Novaks, when me and my late son Joe Bonar worked there we always lowered the ejection ports to .475 from bottom of slide, and a rear scallop (should look like a young girls breast) and on those that customer desired also, milled the front of port with a 7/16 (.437) to clear a hardball nose when ejecting a loaded hardall round. Then we'd cut the internal angle with a 60 degree countersink and polish!
This ought to be standard operating procedure!
Harry B.
 
lowered ejection port

Dear Sir:
It's being done now. I think Joe and I (Novaks) started this along with the forwad slide serations - we made the first acceptyed prototype of the new FBI Swat pistol and it had all that.
I guess it's cost, but like you I wonder why they all don't do it. The Colt and Springfield armory are all done - I don't know why they all don't do it!
I worked up the set-up in my mills to cut the slide serations simply and a jig for the Ed Brown beavertail grip safety. I also have a jig I made to cut frames for the Nowlin square bbl seat and the Para cut.
I don't have a mill right now so am somewhat constrained.
Harry B.
 
Harry, thanks and to all that replied...:) BTW, just got back from a local gunshow and was disappointed...More like a flea-market than a gun show..:(
 
"...Dude get a Glock!..." Dude, buy a pistol that doesn't slip around in your hand when you fire it. Snicker.
"...Some pistols are, some not..." It has to do with the design of the pistol and the 'heat' of the ammo. Mind you, my Colt .45 has a stock ejection port and has never given me any grief with any ammo. I suspect that lowering the port is more cosmetic than anything else.
 
On a lot of 1911's, problems with ejecting empties through the ejection port can be corrected by tweaking the extractor or ejector. Our late, local gunsmith knew how to tune these two items to get flawless ejection out of a stock 1911 port.

A larger port does allow more lattitude in both ammo and recoil springs as well as extractor strength, however. And if there is a failure to eject, the larger port does make it easier to clear.
 


I didn't think that they let you own handguns in Canada....

BTW my 45acp Glock doesn't budge at all when I fire it. Sure, it isn't as pretty or expensive as a nicer 1911, but it works without any hitches and hit's where I aim.....




-tINY

 
I didn't think that they let you own handguns in Canada....
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Anyone who owned a pistol before the ban can still own said pistol or purchase same pistols. Also, certain jobs that require the carry of a pistol can purchase pistols (i.e. park ranger, armored car driver, etc...). There is not a complete ban, just a very restrictive set of rules in place. Hopefully, with a new set of legislators in place they will repeal this stupid (in my opinion) set of laws.
 
If you get a real gun that's designed properly , it's not a problem . The HK P7 has the ejection port centered at about 2 o'clock .The extractor is at 2 o'clock and the ejector at 8 o'clock .The case never touches the slide and that's why the cases go so far !! But then the P7 is reliable for that and other reasons !!
 
Speaking of why manufacturers don't do things or keep on doing things, why do they keep on introducing brand new 1911's with the obsolete extractor and pin slide release/safety detent plunger assembly, some of which are still the flimsy staked on variety?
 
Well, on the spring tunnel, the staked on kind works and stays in place. The ones held on by super glue, used chewing gum, or the maker's best wishes come off. Llama may have had the best idea, using two screws to hold it on.

Jim
 
The plungers are kind of a sore spot with me Jim. Besides being a really poor shooter, my Colt 1911 deposited the plunger in the dirt at the Weldon Springs, Mo. range. It's still there and the pistol is history. Para had to replace the plunger and safety on my P14 when it galled up and in spite of religious lubrication, the blasted thing is getting gritty again.
 
dunno if this is what Harry is talking about...:confused:

The first pic is a SA Custom NM Hardball pistol made around 91. The second pistol is a SA GI model I sent to the SA Custom shop in the early 90s for modification. The third is a Kimber Tactical Pro II that I purchased in 2005.

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milling

sirs:
The milling is done at the front of the ejection port .050 forward toward the muzzle with a 7/16 mill to allow room (excess room) to clear hardball round (unfired). The "rollover" is done great on the guns pictured and it prevents some denting of rounds ejected. Do it with slide on it's left side and just set mill so it doesn't hit your lowering to .475 cut. Advance about .050 towards front of slide with slide laying on it's left side - doing work on it's right side.
I'll try to get a picture.
Harry B.
 
I didn't think that they let you own handguns in Canada....
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yes tiny they do i just bought a Glock 17 in december and got it 6 days later
you just have to have a restricted license to buy pistol, carbines and certain military type weapons, but to get fully automatic firearms or weapons under a certain length you must get a prohibited license.
 
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