Who protects us from those who protect us?

jimpeel

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I know that I will, once again, be accused of being a cop-basher by the usual suspect but when those who are empowered to enforce the law go bad the public needs to know. Here's another one for the public record.

http://www.columbiamissourian.com/news/story.php?ID=17700

Missourian NewsDecember 31, 2005

Policeman charged with stalking, fired
By HARLEY GEIGER

A six-year veteran of the Columbia Police Department has been dismissed from the force following his arrest Friday on suspicion of stalking a former girlfriend, using phone calls, letters and a vehicular tracking device.

Todd Smith, 31, is charged with misdemeanor stalking, a Class A misdemeanor.

If convicted, Smith could face up to one year in jail and a $1,000 fine.

Smith was released from the Boone County Jail on bail early Saturday morning.

“We have a standard, and that standard was not met by Todd Smith,” Columbia police Capt. Michael Martin said. “So we took quick and swift action against him.”

Smith was arrested at his Ash Street apartment at 7 p.m. Friday, a day after a 21-year-old woman found what appeared to be a tracking device concealed in her vehicle.

She told police that her relationship with Smith lasted approximately seven months, and that since they broke up in mid-December, she has received anonymous letters, phone calls and text messages “of a disturbing nature.”

“Finding the device was a significant event for the victim,” Martin said. “Obviously she was greatly concerned and came to us after that.”

An ongoing investigation determined that the tracking device belonged to Smith, according to a police news release. He was at first placed on administrative leave, then fired, Martin said.

Smith did not answer telephone calls to his apartment Saturday.

Martin said police found evidence that Smith had purchased the tracking device — a 3-by-4-inch box with an antenna — on the Internet. The device is similar to a Global Positioning System unit, Martin said, although the location of the vehicle is not relayed in real time.

“He knew where she was, when she got there and how long she was there,” Martin said. “He knew every place she went and where she moved. This is not permitted.”

Martin said police suspect Smith also used the Internet to shield his identity when he made the calls and text messages.

Misdemeanor stalking falls under domestic violence statutes and may carry jail time, a fine or both. Martin said there is no evidence that Smith threatened the woman, which would have elevated the crime to a felony.

Martin said this was the first known case of a tracking device being used to stalk someone in Columbia.

“Based on the fact that high-tech tools are now available to everyone,” he said, “it’s reasonable to believe that this sort of thing will be on the rise.”
 
It seems that the answer to the question "Who protects us from those who protect us?" is that the police do.
 
gc70

In this case I agree; but what happens as corruption and abuse within the ranks increases? Who watches the watchers?

We post these incidents to keep track. In this case, the guy was not corrupt. He was merely a criminal.
 
In this case I agree; but what happens as corruption and abuse within the ranks increases? Who watches the watchers?

We post these incidents to keep track. In this case, the guy was not corrupt. He was merely a criminal.

You just had a great debate with yourself. You post an article showing that a cop committed a crime and was arrested by his own department and fired and then ask who is watching the watchers and ramble on about rising corruption and abuse? Please provide your documentation that corruption and abuse are on the rise.

If we are going to post these statistical blips, just to keep track, then we should be posting all of the times a copper goes above and beyond and risks his/her ass to do good. Just to keep track.
 
Who protects us?
SCOTUS has ruled that the local po-po are NOT here to protect us, right?
In terms of police corruption, internal affair types get first crack, then there's the media, maybe your community has some type of Police watch-dog citizen's committee to oversee complaints... but the article you quoted was about an officer tracking his former girlfriend. He might have done some stalking while in uniform or on the clock, but in any case his department did just what we want them to do... right?

Isn't that a GOOD THING?

sigh
 
Stalking devices are a big problem in modern life. Look at the ads that say "it's 11 oclock; do you know where your teenager is?". That's where the cop probably got the tracking device he used to stalk his ex-girlfriend. I always laugh at the caption in those ads but actually they scare me because that's how easy it is to spy on a person in the 21st century.

Does your employer supply you with a cell fone? Then that means they always know where you're at. That cops ex-girlfriend probably thinks nobody is tracking her now...........................WRONG!
 
I do

That being said, damn near all cops are good guys. The only ones that we hear about are the dirt-bags with a badge.

Oh, and the ones that get KIA, who we roast, or praise MMQB style.

But the ones we love to hate the most are the ones at whom we can point!

JBT! Abuse! LEOs gone wild!

Lov'em hat'em, can't live without' em.
 
In this case I agree; but what happens as corruption and abuse within the ranks increases? Who watches the watchers?

I think the consensus is that this is a lone wolf baddy, not an institutional problem such as testilying, for a quick example.

Just like the Catholic Church man-boy scandal that was covered up for sixty years (maybe hundreds of years), we wouldn't have been surprised if we heard that this guy would have gotten cover from the thin blue line. That he was caught and dealt with means that there is a pocket of goodness, or that the case was potentially too high profile to let slip.

Rick
Over-analyzing again.
 
If we are going to post these statistical blips, just to keep track, then we should be posting all of the times a copper goes above and beyond and risks his/her ass to do good. Just to keep track.

+1!!

No one ever posts that stuff...Its amazing to me how many anti-LEO and cop bashers there are, especially in the firearms world. LEO's are some of the most pro 2nd amendment people I've ever met. I'm an LEO, an NRA member, and I love the 2nd amendment. Remember: I only enforce laws your elected officials enacted. Don't blame me, blame who YOU put in office.

If the garbage man picks up your garbage on Tuesday and Thursday, and you blame him, your a fool. Its not him that made that policy, its the admin...
 
I agree with Optical. There are far more examples (percentage wise) of misdeed in the elected officials of this country than bad cops. With cops, you didn't get a say in who was hired. But you did have a choice with the politicians. Geez, look at Duke Cunningham. Talk about a good guy gone bad.
 
I find it funny when asking people who they hate the most - the usual response is.. police. I ask why? The reasons I get:

They are arrogant.
They are rude.
They pick on me.
They think they are so tough because they have a badge.
They are all corrupt.
They are racist.

Then... I ask them who they call when they are in real life threatening trouble???

Who.... Yes.... The police.

A Police Officer: A person who puts up with constant abuse (over here in Australia they often get deemed "The public punching bag") and they continue to serve and protect those that hate them most, because thats what they are there to do.

I don't know if any of you saw the Sydney riots. An amazing piece of footage was a police officer using his body to protect a Lebannese man from being beaten and bashed by ordinary Australians. Even though the police officers may have had feelings against both groups of people for their behavoiur, they carried out their duties and protected those that needed them most. The police became the targets - from both sides. Just because they helped someone.

The respect for police officers here has nearly completely diminished. Our foolish laws limit police officers from using different kinds of force, and even what they can say to people. Years ago if you had done something wrong, the police officer gave you a clip over the ear and put the fear of god into you. Now... I see footage on the TV of people calling police "pigs" to their face and trying to start a fight with a police officer, and the policeman just has to stand there and take it on the chin.
Recently a police officer here on national TV told a young kid to "pull his head in" after he was being an idiot. Letters flowed in to the TV station in full support of the police officers actions, yet he was dragged through the state's ethnical standards commission and was told that his actions were not appropriate and he was warned over the issue.

I am biased as I want to join the police. I'm still a civilian though. I see and hear what people think of police. Some of my friends will not talk to me anymore because they know I want to be a policeman - I haven't even applied yet! With the stress and emotions that a police officer may go through during their career, they can't even rely on some of their closest friends for support. It can get very upsetting.

To be able to remain within the confines of the law, act in good faith, maintain conduct, push aside emotion, racism, loyalty, friendship, relationship, religion and still be human is a hard task.

Police become corrupt. Soldiers become corrupt. Politicians become corrupt. Doctors become corrupt. Teachers become corrupt. Religious leaders become corrupt. Can you name anyone else??

People will continue to "bag" police until the end of time.
Just remember who you call when you need help....

Chris Cullen
 
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