Which short barreld semi-auto shotgun for defence?

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Para Bellum

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Still having almost no clue about shotguns, I have decided to buy a short barreld semi-auto shotgun in 12ga. But which one. Who makes good ones? What do you need?
I am a Glock-carrier, if that helps you in assesing my type of gun-head. ;)
 
I mean at least 17,7" (45cm) barrel length and at least 35,5" (90cm) overall length

...everything shorter would be illegal in my country (Austria).
 
Any reliable russian semi-auto shotguns with 18" barrels?

I have a TOZ-34 already. I like it. It's 30 years old, and was hardly ever shot (until I got my hands on it lately). Very nice. Simple. working. Pic below

Are there also reliable russian semi-auto shotguns with 18" barrels?


my TOZ-34EP
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shotgun...

You should not overlook the pump shotgun.

As far as absolute ruggedness and quality, the Remington 870 would be hard to be without. Their fitment and quality ranges from the "Express" to the better "Wingmaster" to the best "Law Enforcement". The 870 is an absolute irony as other firearms manufacturers cut corners in quality to keep the price low; Remington made improvements over the years in this particular weapon. There are also a plethora of extras available.

The ubiquitous Winchester Model 12 is a marvel of machining and sought after by those who know. This is an example of a fine weapon being discontinued due to the cost of manufacturing. Up to and through the '60s, every cop car in America, well almost, had the Winchester pump inside.

Last but not least in the Ithaca M37, John Browning's last repeating shotgun design. Great shotgun and light in weight due to Browning's continued work with every repeating shotgun design to reduce the number of parts. Well made...

The new pump shotguns are no comparison , imho.
 
Be advised that a gas operated semi-auto, like the 11-87 might work fine with a standard barrel, but not be reliable with a shorter barrel. I believe it has something to do with the pressure curve --especially with low recoil ammo.

Problems can also develop with a recoil operated gun, like the Benelli, if you start adding more weight, like side saddles and mag extensions--that may dampen enough recoil to cause problems with some ammunition. The 1187 is the lightest recoiling semi-auto--you can use full power ammo. The Benelli is the hardest recoiling semi-auto. Both are fine shotguns.
 
you did mention auto...

..but I bought a nearly unfired 1959 win model 12 riot....sleek, slick, and deadly...pumps just require some practice in sliding the action once trigger has been pulled...
 
Which short barreled.....?

Hi Para Bellum Gut guekommen!
I am Gabriel,gunsmith from Buenos Aires,please do not be faflujt! Do not use
a semiauto for selfdefence.Please look for good European pump action,could be a Benelli,also the achived Ithaca model 37,that you can find cheap in Austria,because the flatened dollar in the ECO,also there is a good Huglus(Turkey) or the Sarsilmaz made in Turkey too,there is very affordable shotguns.
Allways triple 000 buckshot for selfdefense(Bornaghi from Italy,or excellent buckshots made in Spain that you can find in Austria.
Take care and Hasta La Vista
Gabe
 
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