Where's the NRA in California?

Martin Luther

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Year after year, the 2d Amendment loses ground in California.

Where has California's NRA been during all of this time?

No CCWs, no .50cals, no decent military rifles, bureaucracy to buy a handgun, 10day waiting periods, threats by the legislature to ban scoped hunting rifles as "sniper rifles".

What happened?

Will anything be done to reverse the anti-freedom trend?
 
Where were California gunowners in California?

It amuses me how so many people expect the out of town organization to come in and do it all for them while they sit back and watch NASCAR.

While your rights were going down the toilet, how many people were you organizing for letter writing campaigns, grass roots action, etc?

Or were you waiting for NRA to do it for you?

"Will anything be done to reverse the anti-freedom trend?"

What are YOU going to do about it?
 
Where were California gunowners in California?

It amuses me how so many people expect the out of town organization to come in and do it all for them while they sit back and watch NASCAR.

While your rights were going down the toilet, how many people were you organizing for letter writing campaigns, grass roots action, etc?

Or were you waiting for NRA to do it for you?

"Will anything be done to reverse the anti-freedom trend?"

What are YOU going to do about it?

You'd be surprised, Mike.

There are the California Rifle & Pistol Association (CRPA), the Citizens Committee Right to Keep and Bear Arms (CCRKBA), Citizens of America (COA) and numerous, very active pro-gun or gun related mailing-lists such as Jeff Chan's ca-firearms@yahoogroups.com.

All of these have been heavily active in lobbying for or against certain measures, like the current AB 352 which will require firearms to have some kind of super-duper micro-engraving it and stamp on each cartridge case that's fired (it ignores the use of reloaded ammo).

You might ask where are the California gun owners. Well, we are asking where are all of our RKBA bretheren? You see, it seems the rest of the country has given up on Kalifornia because it's a foregone conclusion that anti-gun laws will pass. What money we get from out of state is paltry compared to what other states see, at least according to some of the organizations trying to keep up the fight.

Of course the critters occupying the legislature are predominantly tax & spend Democrats (as opposed to the spend-spend Republicans) and these folks have decided long ago that what the 'common' folks think is not important because they'll always rig it so a democrat (or RINO) is in office.

Watch the NRA's updates and you'll see California show up infrequently, even when something is brewing. And, of late, some of their "help" seems bent not on defeating new laws, but in watering them down "just enough" to call it a victory. I'm not alone in this criticism as several local Members Councils have also tried to bring this to the NRA's attention -- with little response. Getting any fighting money for California from the NRA is a waste of time. They say they want to pick battles they can win and ours certainly aren't it. Thanks for nothing.

The facts are that the majority of the CA population resides in the Blue areas and out votes the red. Add to that, the media here is primarily liberal and conservative voices are generally hand-picked to sound as off-beat as possible.

We aren't watching NASCAR at all. Most of the politically active gun owners are e-mailing, phoning and writing Sacramento every month to oppose one bill or another. They're just not listening.
 
Mike's quotes are in red.

It amuses me how so many people expect the out of town organization to come in and do it all for them while they sit back and watch NASCAR.

How is a "National" organization "out of town" in another state, Mike? It's not the Virginia Rifle Association.

While your rights were going down the toilet, how many people were you organizing for letter writing campaigns, grass roots action, etc?

What are YOU going to do about it?

Plenty. But, you see Mike Irwin, people pay dues to the NRA with the expectation that they manage and fund campaigns and lobbyists through the NRA-ILA to better make our points in the state legislatures.

Or were you waiting for NRA to do it for you?

Oh yes, I forgot. We're paying the NRA to build and maintain a pretty headquarters building and a museum to display antique guns. Never mind leading campaigns to take back our rights in California, gun confiscation's western flank. No, let's just read their website with the occaisional defeatist rant about California. Never mind the NRA leadership bringing up ideas on what Californians should do about it.

Let's be quiet, pay our dues, and let the NRA remind us for the ten millionth time that Diane Feinstein and Ted Kennedy are naughty gun-grabbers.
 
"Oh yes, I forgot. We're paying the NRA to build and maintain a pretty headquarters building and a museum to display antique guns."

As a matter of fact, that's exactly correct, except that the NRA also is involved in firearm safety, sports, and training. The NRA is specifically forbidden to use its dues and contributions for political lobbying.

If you want your money to go toward lobbying, and I hope you do, then you need to give money to NRA-ILA, which is their political arm.

Tim
 
Safety, competition, sports are all well and good. But all of those things don't mean much if you can't purchase your firearms and take them home with you.

The idea of minimizing regulations placed on your rights seems a second priority to the NRA. The NRA-ILA mostly reacts. They do very little that is proactive. California is a perfect example.

Unlike Gun Owners of America (www.gunowners.org). The NRA and the NRA-ILA does little to inform the public about pro 2nd Amendment legislation, federal, state and local, that is trying to get co-sponsors. That's where the fight is. That should be their priority.

California and Northeastern gun-grabbing is a cancer that is spreading throughout the country. It needs to be taken on at its source, or we'll always be reacting- and slowly losing.

Bottom line- when the NRA was founded in 1871, you could purchase a firearm as easily as a book, even in California.
 
Martin, I think Mike's point (with which I fully agree) is that the NRA, as powerful as it is, cannot win every fight and cannot go it alone. FWIW, the NRA *does* have a strong presence in California through the California Rifle and Pistol Association, which is the California state arm of the NRA. The CRPA has a full-time lobbyist on its staff.

If every person who owned a gun in this country voted as if he did, no one would even know who Dianne Feinstein is. If every shooter wrote a letter to a politician or newspaper, or even voted, we probably wouldn't even need the NRA at all. But let's remember we're all on the same team.

If you are a California shooter (or even if you aren't) please consider joining the CRPA:

http://www.crpa.org/

Tim
 
The same goes for Oregon, you don't see many of the anti-gun bills that Ginny is trying to force upon us on their (NRA's) pages either.

That is why I belong, and give, to our grass roots organization, Oregon Firearms Federation. Oh, and I vote :).

Wayne
 
We're not winning California. Something needs to change.

If a corporation is failing in their mission, they get a new CEO, or the CEO finds more imaginative ways to motivate the labor force. That isn't happening in the NRA.

The CRPA is failing in their mission. That's the painful truth. Any decently informed pro or anti can tell you that. What's being done to ensure success in the future?

California's grass roots activism is poisoned by apathy and defeatism. The record shows that. Groups need to exercise leadership, and not let individuals make excuses for the masses.
 
"The CRPA is failing in their mission. That's the painful truth."

No. The truth, and I agree that it *is* painful, is that in the California State Senate there are 25 Democrats and 15 Republicans. In the State Assembly there are 48 Democrats and 32 Republicans. The governor is a RINO.

The fact that CRPA can get *anything* to go their way is evidence that they are extremely effective, given the lopsided and hostile environment in which they must work.

What they need are numbers. Please join the CRPA:

http://www.crpa.org/

Tim
 
Step in the Right Direction

TimRB,

Thanks for the link.

Gun fight rule #1: Have a gun that works.

Gun Rights rule #1: Have a pro-gun organization that works.

Hopefully one day we can say "California has changed for the better on gun rights".
 
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