Where to go to get a .470 Double?

Krieghoff or Heym are about the cheapest alternatives for heavy doubles. Cheap is relative. Both guns are in the $10,000 range but it's a lot less than $40,000 for a new Churchill or $100,000 for a new Holland & Holland.
 
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Do not know if they still do, nor have I any informatioon on prices, but as I recall, Beretta was offering over/under rifles.
 
Aren't there some American gun makers making modern double's? IIRC the 600 Nitro's in the 2nd Jurassic Park movie were real guns made by some guy that makes double's out in Cal?

I thought that guy or someone like him even makes stainless steel doubles.
 
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Aren't there some American gun makers making modern double's? IIRC the 600 Nitro's in the 2nd Jurassic Park movie were real guns made by some guy that makes double's out in Cal?

In answer to your question, not that I know of, but then I do not claim to have all the answers, not even most of them.
 
yes there is a guy making double rifles in Ca.don't remember his name, was an article in Guns I think, a year or so ago. Try Cape Outfitters in Cape Girardeau Missouri.They used to keep a number of doubles in stock.
BTW, the rifle in Lost World was a .900 Nitro Express by Holland and Holland, a one off for the movie. Rounds are in the $100 a shot category.
 
Where To Get a .470 Double?

According to the Jan. 2001 issue of Guns & Ammo, Merkel is now making a new double rifle (M160-2.1) and .470 NE is one of the three calibers listed. The other two are, of course, .375 H&H and .416 Rigby.

The suggested price is $25,000.

If I had $25,00 to blow on one rifle of this type, I would go for the nostalgic .416 Rigby! But...I don't.
 
The Merkel 140 is being closed out by the importer GSI. You should be able to have an FFL order one in for six grand or so. The gun only comes with extractors and can be had in .470 Nitro which is the best caliber IMHO. Rob
 
JMC: FYI Ruger has a bolt gun in 416 Rigby for a lot less than $25k [I know it isn't a Rigby action but Ruger designed it for the 416 Rigby has 3 postion safety, controlled feed, etc]

[Edited by Glamdring on 12-05-2000 at 11:34 AM]
 
But you asked about a double rifle in .470 NE and that is what I was referring you to.

I'm very familiar with the Ruger M77RSM in .416 Rigby and looked for one for quite awhile but not at the $1700 price tag. Each time I located one for less, it was on hold or gone!

At one point I even purchased 60 rds. of new Norma .416 Rigby brass in anticipation of getting a 77RSM from a fellow in CA who had one for sale.

My neighbor has a Ruger #1 in .416 Rigby and he has RCBS dies that will work just fine when I find one. :D
 
I think there's a place called Caswell Arms or Champlin Arms or something like that in Oklahoma (?) that carries a lot of doubles - I think they now handle the Chapuis. Saw them at the SCI convention a few years back. The most affordable double they had then was around 5 grand - heavily used - but it was in some oddball metric caliber. (Needless to say, I'm still "double-less.")

Searcy's double is, I believe, under 10 grand...I'd have to look at it closely. I've seen some of his "custom" bolt actions and haven't been impressed.

If getting a double, be sure you get one that's mechanically sound. In one of his books, Peter Capstick wrote about a used Chapuis he'd bought which double-fired on him; the unexpected recoil cracked one of his ribs.
 
JMC: I do want to get a 470, but the way you phrased your one post I thought you might be looking interested in a reasonable priced 416 Rigby in a repeater.


HenryB: I never wander, I simply avoid tunnel vision ;)
 
Cape Outfitters was selling "William Douglas & Sons" double rifles for $10,500- $7,500 in NE calibers. If memory serves the 470 ran around 10 grand. Cape carries a huge variety of used guns but all 470's carry a high price. Chapius, Merkel, and Francotte also made470 doubles in over/under or side by side.

BTW on a side note.. I saw (2) 700 NE rifles "made for a major feature film" (engraved with dinosaurs on the lock plates) in "Gun List" a year or so ago for around $17 k a piece.. always thought these were the "Lost world" guns. (since spielberg licensed everything from bumperstickers to toilet paper with the official logo the maker could NOT use the name without paying the licensing fee, which was in the tens of thousands PER licensed item.)
 
get a copy of the double gun journal. it's a quarterly devoted to doubles, a little pricey, but excellent photography and writing. always a number of rifles for sale.
as to lostworld, i could be wrong on caliber, but remember seeing write up on h&h making up a .900n/e cased, engraved (t-rex)...maybe it was just a take off and not related to movie.
 
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